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Is poker a hard game to teach a machine how to win?

2006-11-09 10:08:18 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Games & Recreation Gambling

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I am an avid on-line poker player and have run into a few bots and even purposely played a few that a friend created/bought. In each occasion, the bot was easily dominated. The trick was bluffing - it could never tell when it was being bluffed and unless it had the absolute nuts it would never call. 2nd - it would never bluff itself. It ended up fairing exactly like a human who never bluffs or never calls a bluff - it went broke each and every time. The real key to its success is it must be used short term (so that its betting patterns canot be discovered) and it must get good hands during that time or you will find the darn thing continually folds to nearly every bet (and of course once this gets discovered by the other players they automatically know it will also never bluff on its own so it never cashes on big hands). All in all - save your time, cash and energy with this project.

2006-11-09 10:15:09 · answer #1 · answered by sofgrant 4 · 0 0

There are various poker bots out there and vary in levels of sophistication. Pretty much all poker rooms consider them illegal, and anyone caught using one can lose their account, and all the money in it.

A bot is simply a computer program that is designed to play poker online at optimum strategy. No limit is pretty much out of the question, since there is so much art to the game it is almost impossible to teach a computer to be amazing at it. Limit games are more mathematical and scientific.

In theory a bot playing low limit 'perfect' strategy for a while should return a profit. But there is really no guarantee of that. Even if you had a good bot, would you really be willing to leave it playing poker with YOUR money all night, and hope it did not donk it all off while you slept!

Poker is a very tough game to program a computer to play, especially no limit, because there are so many variable in play. Sometimes you just have to go with your 'gut.' It's pretty hard to program 'gut.'

In all honesty I wouldn't give bots a second thought. If you have reason to believe you are playing one, report it, move to another table.

2006-11-10 13:35:40 · answer #2 · answered by ZCT 7 · 0 0

There are several poker bots out on the internet today. I would not even think about using a bot. If the online site detects your using a poker bot they could ban you and take your poker bankroll. I would suggest you learn the game and have fun playing it. I hope this helps.

2006-11-13 07:09:51 · answer #3 · answered by Bob B 4 · 0 0

Some types of poker are hard, some easy.

It is not difficult to teach a computer to play at a "cheap limit" table, where the bets and raises are under a dollar. The players there make common mistakes (usually overestimating the quality of their hand, or just simply 'having fun') and a computer could easily beat the game regularly, even adjusting a bit, or leaving the game if a table got harder.

But "no limit" and at a higher stakes table, it is a hard problem to solve, one that deals with calculating an answer with limited information. You don't know what your opponents cards are, and you only have indirect evidence as to what kind of player they are.

2006-11-09 13:15:43 · answer #4 · answered by Polymath 5 · 0 0

I don't believe bots will ever be able to defeat a game populated by humans. Nor will you 'get away with it' for long before the poker site detects you. Far better to spend your time studying the game and improving.

2006-11-11 03:07:46 · answer #5 · answered by Father Ashley 4 · 0 0

First of all, bots can only be used in Limit games.

A bots in a no-limit game could be so easily dominated that its totally useless to even thinking about using one.

Second, bots have no psychological factors. Therefore, a bots will play the odds and only the odds. In the long runs I doubt they have the potential to earn much profits

Personally I totally despise bots users.

2006-11-09 16:36:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Statistically speaking, poker can be learnt quite simply...

It would be impossible to teach a computer the human side of poker though

Now, back to your unfeasibly proportioned breasts.....!

:-)

2006-11-09 23:31:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

the randomness and number of poker hand combinations makes its impossible for a computer to dominate.its a combination of bluff,bet amounts,slow play and aggresive play.in a nut shell you could teach a computer to play BUT not to win

2006-11-09 10:22:59 · answer #8 · answered by slashdog2003 3 · 0 0

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2006-11-09 20:10:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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