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Where did this cliche come from? "Catch 22" Do you know any books that give info for the origin of words and phrases or cliches? Thanks!

2006-11-08 18:59:33 · 9 answers · asked by Living the Alaskan life 3 in Education & Reference Quotations

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http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/catch-22.html

2006-11-08 19:08:23 · answer #1 · answered by tma 6 · 2 0

The phrase Catch-22 came from a book called Catch-22 where the main character was always caught in a beaurocratic loop that created a no-win situation.

2006-11-08 19:02:58 · answer #2 · answered by Josh 3 · 1 0

Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. If I remember correctly, the main character is a fighting pilot in Vietnam. He is stuck in a decision regarding whether or not to continue flying. He's crazy if he wants to continue flying missions, but the only reason he can get out of flying is to be diagnosed as crazy by a psychiatrist. Something like that... kind of plays into the whole "damned if you do, damned if you don't" thing...

2006-11-09 02:16:35 · answer #3 · answered by Heath 3 · 0 0

It comes from Joseph Heller's book "Catch 22" where the circular logic of the army prevents any sensible thought.

2006-11-08 19:05:57 · answer #4 · answered by Cafegeek 2 · 0 0

Catch 22

Meaning

A paradox in which the attempt to escape makes escape impossible.

Origin

The title of Joseph Heller's novel, written in 1953 and published in 1961, (properly titled 'Catch-22' - with a hyphen). The first chapter was also published in a magazine in 1955, under the title 'Catch-18'.

The paradox is presented as the trap that confined members of the US Air Force. In logical terms the 'catch' was that, by applying for exemption from highly dangerous bombing missions on the grounds of insanity, the applicant proved himself to be sane (after all, that's what any sane person would do). If anyone applied to fly they would be considered insane. Either way; sane or insane, they were sent on the missions. This might be described logically as, 'damned if you do and damned if you don't', 'the vicious circle', 'a chicken and egg situation', or 'heads I win, tails you lose'.

In the book, this is explained thus:

Yossarian looked at him soberly and tried another approach. "Is Orr crazy?"
"He sure is," Doc Daneeka said.
"Can you ground him?"
"I sure can. But first he has to ask me to. That's part of the rule."
"Then why doesn't he ask you to?"
"Because he's crazy," Doc Daneeka said. "He has to be crazy to keep flying combat missions after all the close calls he's had. Sure, I can ground Orr. But first he has to ask me to."
"That's all he has to do to be grounded?"
"That's all. Let him ask me."
"And then you can ground him?" Yossarian asked.
"No. Then I can't ground him."
"You mean there's a catch?"
"Sure there's a catch," Doc Daneeka replied. "Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn't really crazy."
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.
"That's some catch, that Catch-22," he observed.
"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.

The phrase is now often misapplied to any problematic or unwelcome situation.

2006-11-08 19:11:35 · answer #5 · answered by He 7 · 1 0

i think josh is wrong...the book's story concerns catch-22s, but the book didn't create the cliche, the cliche rather helped give context to the story

2006-11-08 19:09:28 · answer #6 · answered by theWord 5 · 1 0

"Catch-22" is the title of a book by Joseph Heller dealing with bureaucracy and its foibles.

2006-11-08 19:08:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

<>It comes directly from the book by the same name written by Joseph Heller.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcatch22.html

2006-11-08 19:03:37 · answer #8 · answered by druid 7 · 0 0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_%28logic%29

check out this defination from wikipedia

2006-11-08 19:08:48 · answer #9 · answered by Mr E 1 · 1 0

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