Well.. Rumsfeld has been fired? So what's next for Iraq?

Question

The way I see it, Iraq is an unachievable goal that should have never been embarked upon.
So unfortunate for America, who had the perfect C Student with the perfect unachievable goal to reach for his otherwise unimpressive resume, we are still entrenched there with no way out.

Now that Democrats are in power though I see very few options for victory there yet a very small number of options:


#1 CUT AND RUN.
I see nothing wrong with cutting and running. The Iraqi's are uncivilized barbarians who only made it this far because of Saddam Hussein's scrutiny over them (torture and murder of them). The disenfranchised sects in Iraq are going to uprsie first chance they get - especially when Saddam is executed and its going to mean the deaths of more US Troops which I am totally against.
I'm fine with cutting and running - Let the Iraqis fight it out amongst themselves.

#2 CUT AND WALK - Bush's lies and conjecture had many of his redneck base believing America would leave Iraq when the Iraqi police were ready to stand up and carry on the fight.... YEAH RIGHT !

Years Later, many of the Iraqi's have been trained to fight, however, many of them are being killed by sectarian violence and many of them are merely THEIR OWN SECT'S DEATH SQUADS. America picked a side in a civil war and these people are working against us as much as they are suppossed to be working with us.

CUT & WALK basically allows America to BOW OUT of the scene and let Iraq slowly disintegrate into the civil war which they are allready involved in. There really isn't much more we can do in Iraq thanks to Bush's shortsighted stupidity.

#3 STAY THE COURSE?

If I'm going to evaluate all options, I have to include, W's stupid plan to stay the course. The course basically means, America will spend more and more of its Defense budget in Iraq and we will eventually build up a 1 Trillion dollar debt based solely on Iraq activities.

I'm totally against that. America needs to take care of its own people first rather than trying to pull that stupid neocon hooplah about spreading democracy in the middle East. You can't spread democracy to people who don't or can't accept it.

Staying the course would also mean sending more troops to Iraq and stayiong there for a much longer period of time (probably 10 years more).
This is highly improbable.

Answer 1

For those who say Rummy resigned, do you really think if Dubya had gotten down on his knees and, after kissing Rummy's butt, said, "Oh please, please don't go! I can't live without you!" he would have left? No, he would have stayed. Now Georgie will have to accept more blame and his legacy continues to grow as the Fool Who Invaded Iraq. You know, that, his foolish war in Iraq, and the fact he was the "My Pet Goat" reader on 9/11 will be all this piece of human offal will be remembered for.

Answer 2

Well I believe your options are unfounded and weak.

Firstoff, to quote yours, my, and our President, "Stay the course" if you listen to his speech in entirety means "The objective is to win the war and that course must remain constant. The stratagies and tactics may change, but the objective must remain the main priority, and that is winning."

Since there is a shift in power now, and both Democrats and Republicans must now share the playground and play nice together. I too see little results happening anytime soon. There will be too much bipartisianship.

How about this.... instead of "how to pull out and save face." I would like to know the Democrats strategy on WINNING the WAR, not finding a amicable excuse to sugar-coat losing it!

There hasn't been one strategy announced from the Democrats on how to win, but plenty on how to lose.

It is a mess, yes I agree, there isn't a clear cut and dry way to win. Remember we are not fighting a uniformed army here, were are fighting a ideology and religious way of thinking.

And make no mistake... these radicals will not ask you before they behead you if you have a "D" or an "R" attached to your name. Being an American is simply enough of an excuse to kill you.

One more thing... and for all those servicemembers that I see you "Showing your support" will have died in vain so you may spew your babble.

As a former United States Marine, I find your question offensive to our troops, and anyone who has served or DIED for YOU.

I am sad that this generation is nowhere close to what Americans in WWII were Americans first and foremost ever before a D or an R. I know, let me guess... before your time right?

Here's a solution to show your support... get off the computer, wipe the cheeto dust off, enlist and pick up a weapon. But I'm sure you feel quite safe where you are, and let others do the fighting for you.

I am willing to die defending my country. Are you?

Answer 3

your making the classic blunder in thought. we are not fighting iraq we are fighting IN iraq. This is not a war against a country its against an idiology. And this Idiology is that they dont want you to be here reading this or watching your reality tv shows. They want you and your family DEAD. The middle east is where the money is. This money is what they are going to use for the technology to fulfill this idiology. We loose control there they will bring it here. Remember during wwII (yea, I know you probably havent studied but I have to assume) people were woried that Hitler had MAGIC weapons and if he did we would loose the war. Today there are magic weapons that have shrank this world as small as they want. Its people like you and the ones agreeing that are killing our troops by not allowing us to do our job and rid this idiology the way it should be done.

Answer 4

I see nothing wrong with cutting and running except I don't thing the servicemen coming home will be happy. It's like us vietnam vets who came home with egg on our faces. We should set a date and tell the new Iraq leader when we are going to leave. Then they would have to get their army and police force in order. If the US wants to continue some aid (money) for training and weapons that would be ok with me but lets get our soldiers out of there.

Answer 5

Rumsfield resigned, wasn't fired. However Bush owes so many favors to his daddy's friends, not much will change. With more Democrats in power, we may start seeing a timetable for leaving Iraq. This won't in in the form of dates, but it will say, "when this happens, we'll pull out of Tikrit, " and when that happens, we'll pull out our oilfield experts." It's the same thing that's happening now, but we'll be better informed on it.

Answer 6

The democrats have decided to gradually reduce troops.
NOT cut and run.

Answer 7

Dude he has been trying to quit for a minute, but bush wouldnt let him.

Answer 8

He didn't get fired, he quit. Like a screaming little sissy-boy.

Answer 9

Rumsfeld was fired ??
Wow..
It thought he resigned..
Oh well..
I presume you know what you are talking about...

Answer 10

I vote "cut and run"