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i need to understand, did jesus exist in the trinity before his birth or was he a part of god sent down in human form, also is god 1 in 3 or 3 in 1 i dont get anything

2006-11-08 02:42:23 · 24 answers · asked by Mac C 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Jesus and his Father Jehovah are two different spirit persons, but are united in their thinking and are in full accord with each other. At GENESIS 2:24 consider what God says regarding a marraige--" Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Notice, it says one flesh---when a man takes a wife, does that mean that the husband is also the wife in the same body? No, of course not, but that is how people think of God and his Son. When the Bible says that God and Jesus are "one" it means they are separate, yet in agreement with each other.
Jesus said this in prayer to his Father in heaven at JOHN 17:11--
"And I am no more in the world, and these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name which thou hast given me, that they may be one, even as we are."
Jesus was praying about his disciples, that they would be "one" just as he and God were "one"
Did the disciples actually become one person or were they one in unity?
No matter how you try to reason with Trinitarians, they cannot seem to grasp the truth about who the true God really is. They insist on worshipping a triad of Gods. Jesus is the mediator between us and Jehovah God (PSALM 83:18).
Jesus was exalted to be a Prince and Saviour as stated at ACTS 5:31--"Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins."
JOHN 5:30--"I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me." ( Almighty god can do anything, proving that Jesus is not God)
1 CORINTHIANS 15:24--" After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power." (Jesus, after his thousand year reign over the earth, will then give the rulershipship back to Jehovah, to whom it rightly belongs. All human ruled governments will have been destroyed)
ISAIAH 40:18--"To whom can you compare God? What image can you find to resemble him? (N.L.T)
Isaiah 40:25--" To whom then will ye liken me, that I should be equal to him? saith the Holy One." (Jehovah has no equal)
LUKE 1:32--" He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David." (Jesus does not give himself the throne--Jehovah gives it to him)

2006-11-08 03:27:26 · answer #1 · answered by Micah 6 · 1 2

Yes Jesus is a part of the trinity before he was born, he was the son, and many (specially Muslims) thought that he was names the son because he was born from Mother Marry, and this is wrong, he was named like that for what is his duties. The bible say
he is the same God, the one God, it is not 1 in 3 nor 3 in 1, but it is one God, and no other, this is something I wish is clear to who tries to claim that Christianity has 3 Gods, but as it is always said, water , ice, vapor and liquid, and as the triangle has three legs, this is the Trinity, one God that do many functions, and each function is related to a name.
The father is always related with God when he is planning or arranging, the son is when God do or create or save ..the holy spirit is when God talks with people, communicate, and guide, so when God acted and came to earth with a human body with the name of Jesus, that was God the son working..

2006-11-08 02:56:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

The Faith shall not be polluted by admitting that the Creator and the created are two separate, distinct, exclusive persons who exist today, who also existed 2006 years ago. The mystery of 3 in 1, 1 in 3, 1 in 1, has not been 'finally solved' despite a 2000 years long debate. Is not it easy to believe that God is God, man is man, and the twain donot merge into one. There is, there was, and there shall never be a dire need to this assumed merger. Better still. Stop this debate. Wait for The Christ of the Jews, Muslims, Christians and all others to come to the Earth, and explain it personally. We have had enough wars, bloodshed, persecutions, aggressions and diplomacy-in-the-churches and synagogues.

2006-11-08 03:09:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

That is an incorrect understanding of where we come from. God did not poof us into existence in whatever way he wanted. We are eternal beings, which means no beginning and no end. We have always existed in some form. What God did was create a means by which we could become greater than what we were. He created our spirits to expand what we started as. He gave us physical bodies and the ability to have experiences to again, expand who we were and allow us to become more and more like him. We choose if we are going to do the things that will let us become greater than what we already were just like we do in our day to day lives. If you go to college but screw around you wont learn as much if you actually study and take it seriously. Our experiences make us more loving, empathetic, stronger, if we react to our experiences in a positive way, even if the experiences themselves are negative. God doesn't make it easy, because you don't learn as much when things are easy. The more you have to work, the more you learn and the richer the experience it becomes. This life is for you to become the best person you can become. You don't just have a Heavenly Father, aka God, rooting for you to achieve this potential, but you have everyone that is one in his purpose rooting for you. You have literally millions of people wanting you to understand that you are loved, you are divine in nature and that you have the potential to become so much greater than you are right now and everything about this life gives you that opportunity if you make the right choices. Believing in God is hard. It is truly a journey that takes at first a small leap of faith. You cant make yourself believe in a God, but you can hope just a tiny bit, that there might be someone out there rooting for you and that has a plan for you. Start with that. Find ways to connect to that love God has for you by giving it to others because that is the best way you can connect to it. Charity, or the pure love of God, is what you are ultimately trying to have and become. If you want to know God, help him connect others to that love by serving them. Your ability to love will expand and it will help you to see and understand and know the love that God has for you, too.

2016-05-21 21:54:55 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is God (YHWH is God's Name).

Jesus before He was born on earth, was called "The Word." , in heaven.

In the beginning was The Word, the Word was with God(YHWH), and the Word was God(YHWH). John 1:1 Read Isaiah 9:6 also.

In the orginal greek (which is the original language of the New Testament) it says,
"and The Word was Within God(YHWH)".

Jesus was "The Word" within God(YHWH) in heaven before His physically birth.

"The Word" always existed from all eternity
within God (YHWH God's true Name).

Jn. 1:2 And all things were made by Him(by "The Word").

Jn.1:14 And "The Word" became flesh, human, incarnate, and lived awhile among us, and humanity saw His ("The Word" that became human) Glory, full of Grace and Truth.

"For to you is born this day in the town of David, a Savior, who is Yeshua(the Messiah), 'the Lord' !!" Luke 2:11

Lord is a title only given to God.

The Holy Spirit of God is the One who empregnated Mary so that she could give birth to Jesus as a baby. Luke 1:35 "The angel said to Mary, 'The Holy Spirit of God' will come upon you, and the Power of the Most High will overshadow you, so the holy sinless offspring which shall be born of you will be called the son of God." Taken from Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 7:14 says "The Lord Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, the young woman who is not yet married and is a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and His name shall be called "Immanuel" God with us. [refer to Isaiah 9:6 also.]

While the term trinity is Not in the bible anywhere, 1 John 5:7 is !!

"And there are three that bear record in heaven,
The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit: and these three are one God." 1 John 5:7

The Tanak, the Old Testament backs this doctrine up in so...many.....places as well.

Hope this helps you out.

2006-11-08 04:04:43 · answer #5 · answered by Thomas 6 · 0 3

He was the Word in Heaven before human birth. Now the son in the trinity...there are three parts to the Trinity all part of the same God. Jesus wrote the Bible through Moses and the apostles
God could be in Heaven and dying all at once... He is spiritual and was manifested human for 33 years only

2006-11-08 02:45:08 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 3

Read Genesis 1....about the creation and "Let us...create man".Then read John chapter 1, "In the begining was the Word,change "Word" to Jesus.Colossians 1 also tells how Jesus was there at creation.
So what you have is God in 3 persons,Father ,Son and Holy Spirit,all there at Creation.We use 10% of our brains so sometimes things are hard to understand.
One God...Three persons....1x1x1+1 God,not 1+1+1=3gods.
According to the Bible,God created ALL things Through Jesus.
Phillippians tells us how He stepped down even though He was equal to God to become a man for our sakes.and Hebrews chapter 12 and 13 explains more .Good luck ,check it out.

2006-11-08 02:51:14 · answer #7 · answered by AngelsFan 6 · 1 3

Jesus existed before His birth as a man. Jesus was present for the creation of the universe. In coming to earth, He set aside His Glory and took on the humble form of a man. Here is gets kind of tricky. When Jesus was on earth, He was still fully God but also fully man. He was subject to all the same frailties common to man and the temptations as well yet was without sin.
The trinity is God as three parts - each is fully God yet individual. They share the same Spirit but with unique attributes. Don't feel bad that it is hard to understand...things get tricky when you're dealing with the infinite ;)

2006-11-08 02:44:42 · answer #8 · answered by lepninja 5 · 0 3

Jesus Christ


Jesus Christ is fully God, the expressed image of the Father, who, without ceasing to be God, became man in order that He might reveal God and redeem sinful man (Matthew 1:21; John 1:18; Colossians 1:15).
We believe that God the Son became incarnate in the person of Jesus Christ; that He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and was born of the virgin Mary; that He is truly God and truly man; that He lived a perfect, sinless life; that all His teachings are true (Isaiah 14; Matthew 1:23). We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for all mankind (1 John 2:2) as a representative, vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice (Isaiah 53:5-6). We hold that His death is efficacious for all who believe (John 1:12; Acts 16:31); that our justification is grounded in the shedding of His blood (Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:17); and that it is attested by His literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Matthew 28:6; 1 Peter 1:3).
We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven in His glorified body (Acts 1:9-10) and is now seated at the right hand of God as our High Priest and Advocate (Romans 8:34; Hebrews 7:25).

2006-11-08 02:49:39 · answer #9 · answered by iwant4wifes 1 · 1 4

Hi, no Jesus is not half God and half human,this is a common mis-understanding, Jesus is true God and True Man,two natures subsisting in one person,divine and human.
because we cannot fully understand this incredible concept we continue to raise doubts,but really we are dealing with the mystery of God.
God cannot be pigeon-holed by our finite mentality, He is who He is,and what we do know of God is that which Jesus revealed to our little minds.
in the Godhead subsists three divine persons,Father,Son and Holy Spirit,each with His own existence but because the love of each for the other is so indescribably powerful beyond human or Angelic knowledge,they are as one in thier relationship.

2006-11-08 02:54:21 · answer #10 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 0 3

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