What if I said there is a heaven, but your not going there?

Question

What if heaven is like a predestination. Heaven already knows who is coming, and it will only be the ones heaven has selected.
So instead of waiting on the idea of heaven that may never reveal itself to you in the afterlife, because you do not know if you have been chosen. Wouldnt it be better to try and live this life with is much heaven that you can grasp? Because while your searching for heaven in another world, you may miss it in this one.
Just wondering?

Answer 1

You make a valid point! But if there is a afterlife I would like to think that it is whatever one would want it to be. For all we know we could all already be immortal and this reality is just a training ground for our true selves to take our experiences and the things we learn to the next phase of our existence.

Answer 2

Good point if you can define what is heaven now?? let me tell you something maybe most of atheists would never understand is that while you are walking hand in hand in this life with Jesus you start relay living the Paradise, the paradise is when you are happy and have joy inside you, not because you have money or you had sex or any of this, this is only a temporary feeling of happiness..sometimes these bring more sadness later..don't you agree (specially if you enjoyed sex and next month u discover that u will have a baby u don't wont..!!) ..anyway..heavens is a state where you experience a steady increase of joy and happiness..

Answer 3

Your describing predestination. Many people (the ones that I have talked to have been Calvinist's) They believe that whoever has been chosen will go to heaven and no one else no matter what.

God says that I can call on the name of Jesus and have faith, that I will be saved. I believe that. I stand on it.

I have a life in this world because I seek a life in the next. God's word gives me an outline of living and how to work in my gifting and purposes.

blessings to you, from someone heaven bound.

Answer 4

Very woo-woo enlightened question...according to some, heaven is predestined by ones actions in their life...besides, if there are different levels/interpretations of heaven, I might not want to go to the heaven of my fellow man, but I would consider trying for, say, llama heaven.

Answer 5

John 14:1-4 "Don't be troubled. You trust God now, now trust in me. There are many rooms in my Father's home, and I am going to prepare a place for you. If this were not so, I would tell you plainly. When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be wiht me where I am going. And you know where I am going and how to get there."
I don't wonder that Jesus left this world and will be coming back to take me to heaven.
I trust and believe the Bible!

Answer 6

good question. that has been my struggle in understanding Jehovah's witnesses. they actually give a number of all the people that will enter heaven. so if you know 4400 good people i guess you know you're out.

some people do see this world as heaven because as many trials as the world goes through you wouldn't know happiness without it. You give my kid a bowl of peas he's gonna ask you why you gave them to him he eats them all the time. you give a starving kid the same peas and he act's like you gave him the world. life is truly what you make it.

Answer 7

Your question assumes a God so inept that He can't even fix things so everyone can find their way back home from this life.

Somehow I doubt that God is this big of a looser.

I agree with your idea about making the most of this life, but I'm not worried that God is as stupid as religion would have us believe.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 8

Trouble is, far too many people are convinced, with no doubt in their mind, that if there is a heaven, they are going there. Makes for an air of self-superiority over those that they "know" are not going to their version of heaven.

That's part of the trouble with the arrogance of the religious.

Answer 9

Then logically heaven would have standards
Standards can not come from an inanimate object
So logically find the creator and find His standards and you will get into heaven

Answer 10

I would tell you that only Jesus decides on who goes to Heaven - if predestination is true then Jesus is false - and I know Jesus is not False - but the key to eternal life!