why do Muslims think that Jesus and the writers of the bible lied about his death, yet died rather thanDenyIt?

Question

Isaiah predicted the Messiah would die for our sins 700 bce He will be exaulted but first marred more than any man and lay down his life as a lamb to forgive our sins. Isaiah 52vs13-53vs12

on and on the bible goes showing how the Messiah will die for our sins-Jesus said he would be in the earth 3 days like Jonah

understandable when you follow a leader who had his issues; Mohamad at 40 years old 'married' a 9 year old little girl Aisha -in maturity since girls mature faster now-today about 6or7 equivalent age today. which is strongly defiled but defended and that everyone lied about Jesus death too???\

these people in ;the bible were executed cause they wouldnt deny Jesus or the bible that he said "Heaven and earth will pass away but not one of my words shall pass away"

John 21 "This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples after that he was risen from the dead."

would you make up a lie and then defend truth and die for a lie???
why do U/theyDeny

Answer 1

They Believe it. They believe Him to be Prophet, healer, and risen from death.
But not Messiah....

dont shoot the messenger....

Answer 2

I understand your p.o.v., however we don't believe Jesus lied. What we believe is that the truth was there, but others lied and led too many people to believe them.
The reason we believe this is based on the Bible itself. It's been changed and group after group of Christians agree. In the 80's a Christian convention was held in California in which they determined that 80% of the Bible was not the true original word of God. Recently a Catholic group in Europe stopped using the Bible as historical proof and evidence, because they had also determined a great ammount of it had been changed. If you pay enough attention these days, Christians cannot agree on what language the Bible originally was. Many say Greek or Hebrew, however Jesus spoke Aramaic, and we just can't determine what languages were spoken when the Old Testament was revealed. Without an original, it's extremely difficult to determine what is original and what is not as far as translations go. And you also have to keep in mind that the Bibles we have today are translations of translations of translations that have been re-edited and revised numerous times. There is more chance than not of completely losing the True Word of God when people do this. So then you are left asking, what is the Truth, and what is not?

Answer 3

Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus?

1- The Old Testament did indeed claim that the Messiah will die and then GOD Almighty cancelled this prediction.

2- The Old Testament never claimed that the Messiah will die as I clearly proved below


"We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! (The Noble Quran, 2:87)"


"As to those who deny the Signs of God and in defiance of right, slay the prophets, and slay those who teach just dealing with mankind, announce to them a grievous penalty. (The Noble Quran, 3:21)"



(The Old Testament never claimed that the Messiah will die as I clearly proved below)


Hebrews 5:7-8 (these verses explicitly say that GOD Almighty heard Jesus' cries about not getting crucified on the cross) prove without a doubt that Islam's claim about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross and was raised to Allah Almighty is indeed the Truth.


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Both Islam and Isaiah 52:13 claim that Jesus never got crucified

Let us look at this Verse: "After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light and be satisfied; (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 53:11)" The idea of this servant who will get pierced is NOT that he will DIE for people's sins. Notice that in Isaiah 53:9 it clearly says "He was assigned a grave with the wicked", which means that he will have a grave assigned to his name, but it doesn't necessarily mean that his dead body will be in it.

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1- The Bible's New Testament refutes the "piercing" story:

John 19:30-40:

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When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
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Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
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The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
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But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.
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Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.
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The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
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These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken,"
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and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."
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Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jews. With Pilate's permission, he came and took the body away.
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He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds.
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Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.
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None of Jesus' disciples witnessed the crucifixion. They "all fled" and "deserted" Jesus. This further confirms Islam's claims.



Taken from the above verses: "These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: 'Not one of his bones will be broken,' and, as another scripture says, 'They will look on the one they have pierced.' (From the NIV Bible, John 19:36-37)"

"he protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 34:20)"

Notice in Psalm 34:20, it says that GOD Almighty will protect "all his bones". So, not even an inch from his bones will be damaged according to the Scriptures.

As you might know, the crucifixion back then was done by nailing to the cross the hands and the ankles or the feet. If GOD Almighty was going to protect Jesus' body that not even a single bone will be broken, then how would the crucifixion and the death of Jesus be possible then?!

My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?!

Answer 4

easily no considering between the gospel writers for sure captured Jesus's remark that no guy took his existence. Jesus for sure did no longer prefer the Jews, Romans or anyone else considered as his murderers. EDIT: easily, Matthew, Mark & Luke are theory to have been written over a decade earlier the Romans destroyed the Temple. sarcastically John's gospel is the only one regular to have been written afterwards, and it particularly is in this gospel that Jesus's words listed under are recorded.

Answer 5

*** Why do Muslims think that Jesus and the writers of the bible lied about his death, yet died rather thanDenyIt? ***

? Who was Crucified ?

The Bible John 13
" Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon".

( Simon supposedly interferred and was compelled in some versions of the story to carry the cross. Of Kerioth and Iscariot are the same thing to my understanding.)

The Qur'an Al-Nissa 4:157 - 158.
"And because of their saying (in boast):
We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah, but they killed him not,
nor crucified him, but a similitude was shown to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, except the following of conjecture. For surely; they killed him not. But Allah raised him up unto Himself, and Allah is All-Powerful, All-Wise"

( The Quran Scripture says that Jesus was not crucified. )

The Bible Mark 15: 1 - 5
And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate. And Pilate asked him, Are you the King of the Judahites? And he answering said unto them, you said so. And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing. And Pilate asked him again, saying, answer you nothing? behold how many things they witness against thee. But he yet answered nothing; so that Pilate marvelled.

( Yeshua was an eloquent speaker, why be silent now? )

The Bible Mark 15: 34 - 37
And at the ninth hour he cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calls Elias. And one ran and filled a sponge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down. And he cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

( The above doesn't sound like a willing sacrifice to me.)

Sacrifice: Permanent loss of something of immense value. In reference to the Crucifixion,that was not a permanent loss, on the third day he supposedly rose again.
Therefore the so-called sacrifice was not a true sacrifice at all.

The Gospel of Barnabas - page 266.
Judas answered:"Sir ,believe me, if you put me to death, you shall do a great wrong for you shall slay an innocent person; seeing that i am Judas of Iscariot and not Jesus , who is a magician and by his art has transformed me."

( Pilate washed his hands of the whole sordid thing.)

Folk lie and die for other than the truth all the time. Jim Jones, David Koresh , the HeavensGate folks, Hitlers buddies and military personnel, the nine eleven folks that drove those planes into the buildings are just a few examples.

Answer 6

We dont think that Jesus (pbuh) lied about his death. We KNOW that he did not die, but was ressurected to heaven. And that he will one day return. That is our belief. A question for you, if Jesus was God than why is it that he did not just forgive your sins but had to go through pain and die for it? How is it that God, who has created man, can die? Anyway your bible is not the original bible, it is not the bible of Jesus. There are so many testements and so many branches in Christianity. Can you please tell me of any christian who reads and follows the Bible of Christ whose love that you have for him is apparent. Was his word not good enough that it had to be changed?? Where is true christianity today? And if Jesus died for your sins confession isnt neccessary? I am asking you the asker these questions seriously as I am a bit confused. I am not mocking or pointing a finger at you, so no rudeness allowed when you do answer my question.
Christians take their information about Jesus from the Bible, which includes the Old and New Testaments.

These contain four biblical narratives covering the life and death of Jesus. They have been written, according to tradition, respectively by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are placed at the beginning of the New Testament and comprise close to half of it.

Encyclopedia Britannica notes that none of the sources of his life and work can be traced to Jesus himself; he did not leave a single known written word. Also, there are no contemporary accounts written of his life and death. What can be established about the historical Jesus depends almost without exception on Christian traditions, especially on the material used in the composition of the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, and Luke, which reflect the outlook of the later church and its faith in Jesus.
So we are not saying that Jesus (pbuh) lied, because non of these words can be traced back to Jesus himself.

The Quraan which we believe is the word of God and which we havent changed or touched or tarnished of says
The Quran says in reference to the status of Jesus as a Messenger:

"The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthfulness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!" (Quran 5:75).
And the Quraan says regarding Jesuses death, which he did not lie about by the way"“They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but they thought they did.” (Quran 4:156) “God lifted him up to His presence. God is Almighty, All-Wise” (Quran 4:157) .

The original followers of Prophet Jesus opposed these blatant misrepresentations of the message of Jesus. They struggled to reject the notion of the Divinity of Jesus for close to 200 years

This is what I know.
I will appreciate that you do answer my questions that have always puzzled me. I have done research but cannot really find any answers to these questions. Thank you.

Answer 7

Jesus did not die. Jesus did not help anyone to write the bible. The bible was written by men who claim to be under the influence of God when they wrote it. Get over it. They should call it the Holy Scriptures of Control.

Answer 8

Because we as Christians believe and stand on the Word of God.

Answer 9

I really do not think you are making any sense. I do not understand you.

Answer 10

Because Christains are very good at lying.