The Word 'Elohim' in Hebrew Quran?

Question

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/the-word-elohim-in-the-hebrew-quran/

Answer 1

well....bobm has hit the mark here

I agree that they are both related as hebrew and arabic are similar in many ways..

and yes I agree that the God would differ according to the characteristic...

but dont you see...originally...these were all sent by One God. as there can only be One.

But humans have changed it...edited it..and added pagan beliefs into Christianity and wat not into Judaism.

Christians believe their God decided to come down in human form...die on the hands of the disbelievers in a shameful manner and then save the entire human race by the act of killing. What kind of a Creator would allow such a thing??? The Creator is able to forgive and forget in an instant..He does not NEED to do what Christians think He did.

Note: The main reason there are people who go into killing other people of faith is because other people like our sweet bobm here say their god is a totally diff God.

What rubbish.

Answer 2

Elohim is actually the plural form of Eloah and therefore means gods and not a singular god.

Whether this should be interpretted as multiple gods or in reference to the holy trinity is upto your beliefs though.

Just pointing out the similarities between the word Allah and Eloah doesn't prove a point. The same was done with the anglo-saxon goddess Eostre and and germanic god Ostara but it proves nothing conclusive.

Answer 3

I love how some people seem to think that by equating god=god in two different languages, somehow that means it is the same god.
It is just like translating God from Hebrew and Greek. The same translation in French and German is a different name.

The reason why the Muslim god and Hebrew God are two different gods are due to the attributes and characteristics of their God. These are what are different and therefore so are their gods. Since only one God is true, one has to be false. As a Christian, I choose the God of the Bible which does not match the characteristics of the god of the Koran.

Answer 4

I don't know what your question is - because you didn't ask one. But YES Elohim is a designation for God, AND it is an honorable way to address God.

Answer 5

Yeah that's like when Muslims point to a Bible translated into Arabic and say

LOOK! THERE'S THE WORD "ALLAH"! THAT IS PROOF!

Sorry, that doesn't wash. I hope you can see why.

Eloi means "my god".
Eloihim means "our god"

"god" there is used as a NOUN, not a NAME.

Nice try though. I hope you learned something today.

Answer 6

Who Is God?

The following excerpts, from The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 7, pages 674-680, show us that the word God came from the Canaanite words El and Elohim, and the word Lord came from the Canaanite word Adon.

'El.The oldest Semitic term for God is 'el (corresponding to Akkadian ilu(m), Canaanite 'el or 'il, and Arabic 'el as an element in personal names). The etymology of the word is obscure. It is commonly thought that the term derived from a root 'yl or 'wl, meaning ``to be powerful'' (cf. yesh le-el yadi, ``It is in the power of my hand,'' Gen. 31:29; cf. Deut. 28:32; Micah 2:1). But the converse may be true; since power is an essential element in the concept of deity, the term for deity may have been used in the transferred sense of ``power.''

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In Akkadian, ilu(m), and plural ilu and ilanu, is used in reference to any individual god as well as to divine beings in general; but it is not employed as the personal name of any god. In Ugaritic Canaanite, however, il occurs much more frequently as the personal name of the highest god el than as the common noun ``god'' (pl., ilm; fem., ilt). In the Ugaritic myths El is the head of the Canaanite pantheon, the ancestor of the other gods and goddesses, and the creator of the earth and its creatures; but he generally fades into the background and plays a minor role in the preserved myths.
Like 'elohim, el can be employed in reference to an "alien god" (Deut. 32:12; Mal. 2:11) or a "strange god" (Ps. 44:21; 81:10).
'El `Elyon. The Hebrew word `elyon is an adjective meaning "higher, upper" e.g., the "upper" pool (Isa. 7:3), the "upper" gate (II Kings 15:35), and "highest", e.g., the "highest" of all the kings of the earth (Ps. 89:28). When used in reference to God, the word can rightly be translated as "Most High". Since in reference to God `elyon is never preceded by the article ha- ("the"), it must have been regarded as a proper noun, a name of God. Thus, it can be used as a divine name meaning "the Most High" (e.g., Deut. 32:8; Isa. 14:14; Ps. 9:3) or in parallelism with YHWH (e.g., Ps. 18:14; 21:8; 83:18), El (Num. 24:16; Ps. 107:11), and Shaddai (Ps. 91:1).
Among the Canaanites, 'El and `Elyon were originally distinct deities, the former attested by archaeological evidence from Ugarit in Western Syria, the latter by evidence from Phoenicia further south. Later, both terms were combined to designate a single god 'El `Elyon. In the Tell el-Amarna Letters of the 15th-14th centuries B.C.E., the Canaanites called El Elyon "the lord of the gods".

'Eloha, 'Elohim. The word 'eloha "God" and its plural, 'elohim, is apparently a lengthened form of 'El (cf. Aramaic 'elah, Arabic 'ilah).
More likely, however, it came from Canaanite usage; the early Israelites would have taken over 'elohim as a singular noun just as they made their own the rest of the Canaanite language. In the Tell-el-Amarna Letters Pharaoh is often addressed as "my gods [ilani'ya] the sun-god". In the ancient Near East of the second half of the second millennium B.C.E. there was a certain trend toward quasi-monotheism, and any god could be given the attributes of any other god, so that an individual god could be addressed as 'elohai, "my gods" or 'adonai, "my lords".

The words EL, ELOHIM (GOD) and ADON, ADONAI (LORD) were slowly, but surely, incorporated into the WORSHIP of the Israylites!

Was Yahweh pleased with this worship? Well, as we have read in Revelation 12:9, the whole world is DECEIVED; therefore, the worship of El (God) and Elohim (Gods) is DECEPTION, as we find in:

Deuteronomy 11:16__
Take heed and be very careful, or your heart will be deceived, and you will turn away and serve hinder gods (elohim) and worship them,

The word translated Gods in Deuteronomy 11:16 is word #430 in Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, and is the word Elohim:
Result of search for "430":
415 'El 'elohey Yisra'el ale el-o-hay' yis-raw-ale' from 410 and 430 and 3478; the mighty god if Jisrael; El-Elohi-Jisrael, the title given to a consecrated spot by Jacob:--El-elohe-israel.

430 'elohiym el-o-heem' plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

433 'elowahh el-o'-ah; rarely (shortened) >eloahh {el-o'-ah probably prolonged (emphat.) from 410; a deity or the Deity:--God, god. See 430.
3069 Yhovih yeh-ho-vee' a variation of 3068 (used after 136, and pronounced by Jews as 430, in order to prevent the repetition of the same sound, since they elsewhere pronounce 3068 as 136):--God.

The word Elohim is the exact word that Yahweh CONDEMNS YOU for serving and worshiping, and is the EXACT WORD from which the English word God is translated in today's modern translations!

Answer 7

There is NO HEBREW QURAN.
The BIBLE was writted in Hebrew.

Answer 8

God !!!