Why would god necessitate, or choose as means, to have his only son brutally murdered to forgive us?

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And no, it wasn't "us who killed him." He came to earth already forseeing his inevitable death. If it was "us killing him," we would have been able to have the freewill not to nail him to the cross, but clearly he came here to a predestined life to end in brutal torture and murder.

The question again: Why would god necessitate, or choose as means, to have his only son brutally murdered to forgive us?

Okay, let me re-word the question since there seems to be problems:

Why would god forgive us by torturing to death his only son instead of a better less brutal mean like just forgiving us? In the end, he is the major player who makes the rules. There is no need for blood unless he asks of it.

Answer 1

God made a mistake. He let his son die (what a dad) and the majority of the people on this Earth don't wish to be Christian. Jesus would have accomplished nore if he was allowed to continue living his life, doing the great things that he did.

Answer 2

It is to redeem us from our wrong. The price to pay for the wrong we did, be it s lie, or someting small, there is a price to pay. That is eternal seperation from God, some say it is to be punished in hell forever. It is the same.

In old days, people use animal as sacrifices, it is the same concept, as it was the idea given by God. All the sin we had in that year, was on that innocent animal, and when it was sacrificed, God look away from our sin.

It is the act of repentence, and the faith to believe. Not just mere action only.

In the issue of Jesus, the act of sacrificed was done once and for all, to all man kind. And the pouring of the holy spirit to work among the people in this world. Previously the Holy Spirit only fall upon certain people at certain time. Now is for all who believe, and until we are united with God.

That is the reason why God send his son for us. If there is no shedding of blood, there is no redemption of sins.

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Answer 3

I know this is hard for most people to admit, but we all deserve to be punished for sinning against the God that gave us life. This is also hard to comprehend; but God cannot tolerate sin. He cannot just choose to overlook sin; He is too pure and holy. The only way that we can be reconciled with God is through a blood sacrifice. God loved us so much that He provided the blood sacrifice for us. A better explanation is from Ray Comfort in The Evidence Bible:

If you find yourself in court with a $50,000 fine, will a judge let you go simply because you say you’re sorry and you won’t commit the crime again? Of course not. You should be sorry for breaking the law and, of course, you shouldn’t commit the crime again. But only when someone pays your $50,000 fine will you be free from the demands of the law. God will not forgive a sinner on the basis that he is sorry. Of course we should be sorry for sin—we have a conscience to tell us that adultery, rape, lust, murder, hatred, lying, stealing, etc., are wrong. And of course we shouldn’t sin again.

However, God will only release us from the demands for eternal justice on the basis that someone else paid our fine. Two thousand years ago, Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for the sins of the world. His words on the cross were, "It is finished!" In other words, the debt has been paid in full. All who repent and trust in Him receive forgiveness of sins. Their case is dismissed on the basis of His suffering death.

Answer 4

According to the law of Moses, and the sacrificial system of that time, if one intentionally sinned the punishment was death. There was no sacrifice that was good enough to forgive man or woman of intentional sin, only unintentional sin. But during the story of the exodus when the angel of death passed over Egypt and killed all the first born sons, the Hebrews were saved from death because they put the blood of a lamb on their door posts. 1,250 years later God then sent himself in the form of a man to sacrifice himself as the "Lamb of God sacrifice" (because giving up one's life for another is the ultimate sign of love(<~~~~ that’s your answer)). So really God killed his son (himself) to show us that he is willing to pay the punishment of sin for us so that we do not have to go to hell. Believe in this and you have eternal life. Even Jews believe that God's salvation is required to enter heaven . They just don’t believe that Jesus was the messiah.

Answer 5

The God of the Jewish people finally decided to answer their prayers to Him for sending them a messiah or Savior.
Jesus did not stack up to their idea of such and the Rabbis grew afraid of what power he was growing that might threaten their hold over the people.
The Jewish people are still awaiting such a person but all fall short.
The Gentles wee given the task of keeping the words and deeds of Jesus "the Christ" pure and true until the Jews acknowledge that he was indeed the promised Messiah.

Answer 6

Your logic is faulty, because you fail to consider all the facts.

The theology of redemption is a complicated matter, and the solution to the problem is rooted in God's law, his justice, and his mercy.

God stepped in only because man got himself into a very unfortunate and permanent mess, due to Adam's sin.

When Adam sinned, he chose to reject God and throw in with Satan. Then Satan swindled him out of everything he owned, and made slaves of Adam and all his offspring.

It worked a lot like it did in the Book of Exodus, where Pharoah enslaved the Israelites.

In both cases, man was powerless to do anything about his miserable situation, so God had to step in.

And since Satan acted within the existing law, it would have been unjust for God to simply step in and rearrange things in favor of man.

The only way things could be made right again was for God to send a sinless man (one who was not stained with Adam's original sin) into the world.

That sinless man was Jesus, and he: 1) would not be subject to Satan in any way; 2) would not be liable to die, as death is the penalty for sin.

Satan couldn't help himself and he arranged the death of the sinless Christ anyway, by manipulating the Jews and the Romans into crucifying him.

Jesus permitted all this to happen, in order to allow Satan to bring about the destruction of his own kingdom.

The brutal way Christ was killed was simply Satan's way of trying to get Jesus to say "uncle" and quit, rather than stay the course, and die.

Since no one had the authority to take the life of a sinless man, let alone the Son of God, the moment Jesus died, Satan was immediately judged for his crime, and stripped of all that he had gained from Adam's earlier transgression.

God raised Jesus from the dead, gave him all power over the heavens and the earth, and installed Jesus (in Adam's place) as the new and sinless head of all mankind.

Jesus promptly established his Church and gave mankind their freedom.

Now free, man could choose to apologize, repent of his sins, and receive forgiveness, along with the real hope of eternal life, through faithful baptism, and through the good offices, worship, sacrifices, and other sacraments of Christ's one and only universal church.

And since, for the first time in thousands of years, mankind finally had a reasonable prospect of truly changing his evil ways, God was more than willing to forgive.

The rest is history.

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Answer 7

He was the Lamb of God, made a curse for us, there was no other way
His blood was the atonement for our sins, and redemtion, by his own blood brought us to a right standing with God and a new covenant
Now we can walk into the Holy of Holy's for ourself
we can go to God when we die and our souls not be held a captive by satan
It was a horrible price, but he was willing so that all men could go free.
And now we can come bodly before the Throne of Grace to obtain help in the time that we need it the most.
Yes, that was the price for our salvation....

Answer 8

For the same reason that God told Abraham to sacrifice his beloved son Isaac. Would God ask Abraham to sacrifice his beloved son,if God himself were not willing to allow his son to be sacrificed for the redemption of the sins of mankind. No sacrifice is as pure as the only begotten son of God.

Answer 9

The simple answer might be that Jesus died because he was a preacher of radical ideas, who disturbed the religious and political leaders of his time, exposed their hypocrisy, aroused their jealousy and hatred and so was condemned to death on a cross.

That of course is by no means the whole story. It ignores the fact that Jesus willingly laid down his own life, that no-one took it from him. He died so that we might live. He became sin so that we might be freed from sin.

As the Bible says: Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God.” (1 Peter 3:18). We all know that forgiveness can be costly and it was costly for God to forgive us. It cost God his own Son.

In the womb of Mary his mother Jesus took upon himself our nature. On the cross of Calvary Jesus took upon himself our sins. He was first made flesh (John 1:14). He was then ‘made sin’. ( 2 Corinthians 5:21). In the silence, the agony and the darkness of those terrible hours upon the cross, the sins of the whole world, of every place and of every generation, were laid upon him.

As we begin to understand what that means, we also become aware of the love which God has for us and for all of his creation.

Answer 10

You don't understand the sacrificial atonement.

God, did not have Jesus die to forgive us. Jesus Christ was crucified to conquer death and the grave so we don't have to. Jesus Christ is not dead. He rose from the grave the 3rd day. Christians will be Christ-like in what way? We will rise from the grave also, through the blood atonement of Christ.

The question should be: Why did God allow His Son to die and conquer death and the grave for us?

The answer is: Because God loves us.

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Answer 11

There is a lot of speculation on here about what God can do--and what He can't do. There are actually some things He can't do such as lie.
There are characteristics of God, such as Holiness, Righteousness, Justice, Love, and Mercy. Because He is love, (He is not loving, He IS love) He loves us because He gave us the breath of life and made us for a special purpose. But we rebelled against Him and when we did we came against some of His other characteristics such as Holiness, Righteousness, and Justice. These characteristics demanded that a price must be paid for our act of rebellion and, because God IS these characteristics-He doesn't merely possess them-He cannot compromise in any respect when He administers Justice (for instance). When He administers Justice then the penalty is absolute and MUST be paid. When man sinned the penalty was death. Not just physical death but spiritual death. The worst kind of death is eternal separation from God.
However God IS love and He loved us still. He wanted us to be with Him even though we had rebelled and had to suffer death. BUT, a willing and sinless substitute could assume our penalty and suffer our punishment for us.
The Jews were given a ritual as a symbol of the substitutionary aspect of God's forgiveness. This was blood sacrifice. An innocent living thing was slain to symbolically cleanse the people of sin. Another ritual was that of the Escape Goat. There were two goats and one was killed as a sacrifice. The other was taken out into the wilderness and left. He represented the sins of the people which were placed on it and carried away from them. This is the same purpose of Christ's death. He "carried the sins of the people" away from them.
God had decided that the only being capable of paying the price was God Himself. God was willing to pay the price of man's sin and He was sinless so, He Himself would pay the price of death. Not just physical death but spiritual death also. When Jesus said "My God, why have you forsaken me?" it was because, at that moment, God "turned His back on" Jesus. It was absolutely the worst part of the whole ordeal because, at that moment,God the Son,assumed the burden of sin and death, our punishment, and because of it, lost all connection to God the Father.
God didn't force Himself to die for us, He did it willingly because He loved us. Jesus is not the son of anything in the way we think of a son. He is equally and completely God from all eternity. But the relationship of Jesus to the Father is somewhat (as much as we can draw these kinds of analogies) similar to the father, son relationship of humans.
He had to die because that was the penalty that had to be exacted for our sins. He rose again to demonstrate that the penality had been paid and death no longer had a hold on Jesus nor the humans who would choose to acknowedge what He had done, submit to Him as their Lord, and ask forgiveness for the acts of rebellion (sins) that they had committed. Why do we have to ask? For the same reason that you have to ask someone to marry you. Marriage requires mutual submission, the taking of vows, the acknowledgment of perpetual love of and faithfulness to, the person that you are forming an unique bond with. Christ submitted to death for us, we are to submit to His Lordship over us. He loved us to the death, we love and are faithful to Him, even to the death.