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And hell is the "Absense of God"?

2006-11-07 12:14:09 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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In the fairy taile, The Bible, Jesus wasn't God. He was the son of God, and as the son of Mary, half human, which entitles him to go to hell just like the rest of us (if it actually existed, that is).

2006-11-07 12:17:35 · answer #1 · answered by I Am Legend 5 · 0 4

Trinity (or 3-in-one Deities) is a pagan belief transferred to Christendom’s Doctrine. Trinity has a bizarre origin, (see this on-line book http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/)....

Scriptures have been tampered with, (KJ 1Jo 5:7), and God’s personal name has been removed from the bible text to help sell this false belief. Trinity is not taught in the Bible anywhere. Jesus Christ did not teach it to his followers. It is a difficult, if not impossible concept for anyone to rectify and harmonize with true, important Bible concepts such as the Ransom and the messiah-ship.

Jesus Clearly and repeatedly showed himself to be separate and subordinate to his heavenly father who is named in the Bible several thousands of times, (Jehovah). His apostles consistently manifested a belief in a supreme being who was not the same individual as Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is the name of the individual who was transferred by supernatural power to the womb of a virgin to become a perfect HUMAN. He was the very first thing created by the creator. Before becoming human, his very being was exactly the same as his creator’s. His very personality, his goals, his desires, his love, is exactly the same as his father. Everything else created was created by the father but through and with the son. He became God’s spokesman or mouthpiece and that is why he carries the name and title “Word”. He commands all of the armies of angels. He is the authentic “seed” who will champion all of the Creator’s purposes and return the universe to the situation originally purposed by Jehovah God the creator, as the King of God’s Kingdom, (A government with a heavenly seat). He is the Messiah, and the Ransomer who redeemed the lives of all humanity by paying the ransom price lost by the original human pair. He gave his perfect human life to pay that price. He did not pay that ransom price with a Creator’s life or a God’s life. His father, (a separate all powerful individual who was still alive) Resurrected him from death, (Hell) to a life once again as a spirit creature like he was before and sat him on a throne at his right hand to wait until his Kingdom rule was to begin.

Holy Spirit is not an individual personality; it is God’s active force or power.

Christendom will be held responsible for the perpetuation of the filthy trinity doctrine

EDIT: If you have not noticed the answers from devout muslim people show that thay are offended by the false teaching that Jesus is God.
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2006-11-08 16:14:46 · answer #2 · answered by fasteddie 3 · 0 0

Where Does it say in the Bible that he Went to Hell? Jesus Never went to Hell. Remember the Thief on the Cross? If you Don't: Mark 23:40-43 " But the other Criminal rebuked the other saying, "do you not fear God? Since we are punished under the same sentance? We are punished justly, we get what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." Then he Said unto Jesus " Remember me when you come into your kingdom." then Jesus replied "I tell you the truth today you will be with me in paridise."
Now if Jesus told him that he would be in paradise with him that day, then he did not go to hell. It does not say int he Bible that he did.

2006-11-07 21:07:21 · answer #3 · answered by Monika B 2 · 0 1

Ok, God is three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. So God was His own Father. He sent Himself, or a part of Himself, down to Earth to die, but not really; since He knew He couldn't die since He's God and He was still in Heaven but also on Earth.

Dying.

So God the Son died on the cross and went back to God the Father in Heaven. Where I think they're still separate, but equal. Heaven is like the segregated South. So God the Son and God the Father are hanging out in different chairs but they're really the same since everyone knows there's only one God.

Oh yeah, God the Spirit just floats around doing mystical things and getting into mischief.

2006-11-07 20:22:24 · answer #4 · answered by ZenPenguin 7 · 1 1

Jesus went to the Pit not hell to proclaim his triumph over death to the spirits of the deceased. Regardless, hell is for the condemned and Jesus always refers to it as Gehenna, the Lake of Fire, and this place is not to be until after the Judgement, which has not yet occurred.

Also, Jesus didn't go to hell for three days, He went to Sheol/Pit for no more than the time of His death ~3PM Good Friday to ~7AM Easter Sunday, or about 40 hours a significant Biblical number. Jesus rose on the "third day" not after three days.

Jesus is God.

Matthew 18:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

John 5
21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

As to the reference of Jesus' descent:

Ephesians 4
8This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." 9(What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

1 Peter 3
18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison

2006-11-07 20:28:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Couple of things.
The Bible does not say that Jesus went to Hell for three days. The Apostiles Creed says that, but only in a late addition (5th Century) to the Creed. The earliest forms of The Apostiles Creed do not have that idea in them.

The closest thing the Bible says to this is in 1 Peter 3:18-20
For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; [19] in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, [20] who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water.

Jesus "preached to the spirits now in prison," this is formally known as The Harrowing of Hell, if you believe that Jesus went to Hell. The idea is either that Jesus preached the Gospel to theose who died in Noah's day, but they did not believe, or that Jesus went and preached to the souls in Hell, kind of like a kid saying "NAH, Nah, Nah, Nah, NAH" to other kids.
Or else Jesus actually preached in a prison sometime in His life.

But, I don't believe Jesus went to Hell when He died. Jesus said four times "I go to the Father."
John 14:12
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.
See also John 14:28; John 15:10, & John 16:17.

Now to the second part "Hell is the 'absense of God'" is not so, if Hell is properly understood. Satan is to be cast into Hell:
Revelation 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
and then
Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body, but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Satan is not able to destroy either body or soul in Hell, he does his worst here in this world. No, the One who can destroy both body and soul in Hell is none other than ....
(wait for it!!)
(hold your breath!!)
God Himself. Hell is not the absence of God, but the presence of eternal punishment from Him for the sins of which people are guilty.

That is why Jesus said
Matthew 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

2006-11-07 20:37:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

God created Jesus in the vergin Merry and he did many good things to help people. the village people were julous so they agreed hang him on the cross to remember that people can go to curch to forgive their sins (meaning bad doing). When he was on the cross Jesus told everyone that he will return in three days. So when Jesus died he went to heven to talk to his father god. Then came back from the dead to show everyone that he was really gods son and also a son to Merry too.

2006-11-07 20:30:55 · answer #7 · answered by Shaq P 1 · 0 1

Jesus was in the grave where man put him.
God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit =one God in three persons

2006-11-07 20:29:06 · answer #8 · answered by I-o-d-tiger 6 · 0 0

Jesus acknowledged that he had a superior God when he said to his disciples: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.”

After Jesus died, he was in the tomb for about three days. Who resurrected him? Since he was dead, he could not resurrect himself. And if he was not really dead, then he could not have paid the ransom for Adam’s sin. But he did die, and was nonexistent for about three days. The apostle Peter tells us who resurrected Jesus: “God resurrected him by loosing the pangs of death.” (Acts 2:24) The superior, God Almighty, raised the lesser one, his beloved Son, Jesus, from the dead. To illustrate: When Jesus resurrected Lazarus from the dead, who was superior? Jesus was superior, since he could bring Lazarus back from the dead. (John 11:41-44) It was the same when God resurrected Jesus. God was superior, since he could bring Jesus back from the dead.

If you understand the true meaning of Hell, then you will know that everyone that death takes, goes to Hell.

Definition: The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl' and its Greek equivalent hai'des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge'en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).
Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?

Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all .
Does the Bible indicate that the soul survives the death of the body?

Ezek. 18:4: “The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.”


Acts 2:25-27, KJ: “David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], . . . Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,* neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (The fact that God did not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time, does it not?)
Does anyone ever get out of the Bible hell?

Rev. 20:13, 14, KJ: “The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell* delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.” (So the dead will be delivered from hell. Notice also that hell is not the same as the lake of fire but will be cast into the lake of fire.)

Is eternal torment of the wicked compatible with God’s personality? What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing? “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) Would he do what no right-minded human parent would do? Certainly not! Simply put, the word Hell is translated from the Hebrew word Sheol, which means the grave, where everyone goes when they die.

2006-11-07 23:06:33 · answer #9 · answered by BJ 7 · 1 0

"Hell" in the scriptures can often be translated "the grave" depending upon the original language.

But truthfully, I cannot find in my Bible where it says that Jesus descended into hell.

Do not confuse recited prayers with Biblical truths.

2006-11-07 20:24:21 · answer #10 · answered by Bob L 7 · 0 1

JESUS IS GOD. He did not go to hell. The good who died before He rose from the dead went to Limbo and Jesus went there to release those souls into heaven.

2006-11-07 20:22:06 · answer #11 · answered by hbpp 2 · 0 2

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