**Your thoughts please on this current issue**?

Question

I would like to know your thoughts on this;
The downtown YMCA received complaints from their neighbor. The orthodox religious church/synagogue/mosque etc (I will keep which religion out of it) says that the windows facing them should be covered for they could see the "scantily clad" women working out and this was wrong.

So YMCA, being a good neighbor, changed the windows to opaque ones, thus nothing could be seen. Now both the men & women @ the Y complain for no sun light can get in and why should THEY conform to people who should not be looking there anyway. While I commend YMCA for doing the neighborly thing, many people are complaining now that they shouldn't have had to change. I don’t think they should have changed the windows

The complaints received was concerning the woman body, (cause shorts and a tank top while working out is "so" slutty) While on any hot day, these people pass far more semi-naked women on the street.

Many people said that "They are looking onto someone else's property. If you don't like what you see, look away" Others say that their religious freedoms are being challenged. Where do you draw the line. If you see that your neighbor is sunbathing in a bikini, do you go and complain that she should be covered up or do you look the other way? (I’m saying that IF this was your religious belief.)

Where do you stand?

Answer 1

I'm not standing, I'm sitting...ha! Anyways that's so ridiculous. People have a right to workout...and you can't workout comfortably all covered up! And do these same folks just never go to the beach? And then I suppose they can never visit a tropical island where most of the native women go topless on the beach....sheesh! OOHH doesn't the "bible" say if your eye caused you to sin pluck it out??? I may be onto something here...BWAHAAHAHAHA!! :)

Answer 2

If there is a possible solution to not offend others, and that solution doesn't cost you much, than why not do it. So I too commend the Y for trying to make others happy. However, if people are now complaining, then perhaps the cost is too high. Where do we draw the line? What if the people next door didn't like the letter A and asked the YMCA to change their name? Stupid. At some point, people need to be less concerned about being offended.
Who was there first? Does the one really negatively impact the other? What is the rest of the area like? These are questions that should be taken into account, but my guess is that people are just complaining for little reason.

Answer 3

I do not believe that the issue has anything to do with people being scared of women in work-out attire. It is more the fact that there are people who believe it is important to NOT attract men to a woman sexually with clothing that is suggestive.
I personally would want the sun in. I would think if the YMCA spoke to the church/synagogue/mosque people together they would be able to fix the problem so both sides are happy. Perhaps they should ask the church/synagogue/mosque to help pay for a set of blinds that allow the sun in but will make it more difficult to view those working out.

Answer 4

Some people or groups are not happy unless they are bothering others or have some kind of controversy in their life. Many religious people feel that if they are not fighting "the good fight" then they have no purpose. If I was the YMCA I would not have changed a thing. People have been dressing this way for years, why should they change it for people who have obviously judged all the women based on what they are wearing? It shows a level of detachment and paranoia that these poor people have been brainwashed to experience on a daily basis.

Answer 5

I suspect that an honest unhostile question was asked if anything could be done and I think that the y did something very nice and then it just exploded into something all together stupid. I don't think the religious people were out of bounds by asking nicely and I don't think the y was out of bounds for complying. I don't think the religious order will object if the y puts the clear glass back in either. I think this is purely someone making a mountain out of a molehill

Someone above made a very good point too. Why doesn't the religious order do something with their windows?

Answer 6

I'm all for skanky looking girls. The thing here is this, These religions feel that whatever is not of their liking, should not be easily seen by their eyes. That these things should be covered so they don't accidentaly see em. Why do you think there is so much censoring on television. Unless the women were going up to the window, pointing at the Church, Mosque or whatever and taunting, then there was nothing wrong done here. It is a private property and like you said "if you don't like what you see, look away".

Answer 7

If it were our church, we would have put up blinds on the window or windows in question.

I also am thankful that the Y did the neighborly thing and covered the window, because they did not have to and by doing so, showed their christian principals and did not fight against those who were offended.

To bad the church or place of worship in question could not have reacted accordingly and placed blinds on their windows once it was known that others were hurt by the covering of the sun.

Answer 8

As a Christian I commend the Ymca. As a person, I say it is no different than the tv or radio...if you do not like what is there, do not continue to give it your attention. Easy enough to turn around, change the station or the channel.

Answer 9

I'm a Christian and If I don't care for something, I turn away or turn the TV off, etc..... Besides, couldn't the church block the view from their side?
It's also a YMCA, gym....that's the way people working out dress.

Answer 10

I think the YMCA did the right thing by trying to comply with the whatever religious org. However, another answer is custom blinds. They can be turned to let sunlight in, but no one can see in. Granted, you can't see out very well.