Are the police doing all they can for me or looking out for their mate?

Question

My partner was verbally assaulted last night it`s the 4th time the person in question has done it. I posted Q before and found out he could be issued with a harassment order on the 2nd occasion but the police wer`nt up for that and gave him a warning. This being the 4th time the police said they would give him a harassment letter to sign ?He even threatened to kill my partner but the police said they dont think he meant it should they take the threat more seriously?

Answer 1

Please ignore some of the tosh people have written as supposed advice here!! Threats to kill are only taken as that in the eye of the law if the person making the threat has the ability to carry that threat through at the time of making said threat. This is the word of the law. It is not the choice of the police. They do not make the laws and can be as frustrated as you, me or anyone else with such laws.

Furthermore, harrassment is something far better dealt with via civil law through a solicitor and a county court. Please look into this. You will be far better served in this instance if you take this route. Criminal law is not really any good until serious offences have occured in this area. Also, there is no such thing as a verbal assault in the eyes of the law. Although you could argue that someone suffers physically because of the verbal onslaught they had received, but this would be an exceptional case.

See a sol re civil law. It really is your best bet.

Answer 2

The police have to be able to prove a case in order to do something. What happens many times is that the other person will tell the police that they only said what they said because you told them you were going to hurt/kill them. With out proof (outside witness, tape of the harassment) they can not do anything.

By giving he the letter to sing it help give them proof. The letter most likely talks about how he should never ever talk to your partner and should always walk away if happened to see your partner. This way if the person does not do what he signed a letter stating he would do the police now have a reason to do what needs to be done.

Answer 3

Threatening to kill is a criminal offence in the UK. Unless the person reneges on hs threat and explains it was said under stress on the spur of the moment and apologises, the threat must still stand.

As such it is quite right to report it. Your partner must take all steps to avoid the person in future. If this unavoidable, a better plan will have to be devised.

This is an awkward situation that arises quite frequently. I adopted cycling as to feel less vulnerable and always to have a defensive weapon at hand. A bicycle can be used as a shield and contains a heavy D-lock, which is rather like a Police baton.

I considered filling a bottle with bleach or a noxious liquid, ostensibly to wash the dogs muck off the bicycle tyres. The best option is to cycle out of range though.

Answer 4

Threat to kill

Definition

A person, who without lawful excuse, makes a threat to another that they are going to kill them or someone else.

It does not matter whether the person making the threat intends to kill; their intent has to be that the other person would fear that the threat would be carried out to kill them or another person.

It is not necessary for the person receiving the threat to be put in fear of injury.

The maximum penalty for this offence is 10 years' imprisonment.

As a probationer I was the reporting officer and the DS just wanted me to update the first crime report to avoid the second instance of Harassment. I forced the situation by putting a second report, so that the person got arrested, when me and another officer tried to arrest him he broke her arm and cracked my skull , but he got nicked and he got what he was prosecuted.

I don't know which force you are dealing with, the police have a responsibility to do more, keep on at them. You do have a civil remedy go to the CAB

Answer 5

There is a trin line between harassment and just say that you are going to kill someone to say it. I don't know but I have a problem at work where I feel I'm getting verbally assaulted. Only because they person is damaging what others see as me. I've bring it up to a manger and they take their side. I'm doing her old job so when I do my job she won't let me. I get in trouble for all that! I stand up for myself to be told they have been here longer you must be getting the wrong end of the stick. So I know how it must feel

Answer 6

If you feel not enough is being done, in the first instance write to the Local Area Commander (usually an Inspector).
Explain that you feel your complaint isn't being taken seriously because the officers know the offender (i assume this is the "mate" you're on about) and request another officer of senior rank look at the case.
If this doesn't work then contact the Independant Police Complaints Commission http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/ who will ensure your case is fully investigated.

There is no room in the police service for biased/prejudiced officers.

Answer 7

Can't understand why the police aren't taking this seriously, what has happened to Zero tolerance, they should respond to you're partners complaint, take note of the number of times these have been reported and dates then see a solicitor who will deal with this, the police aren't doing their job.

Answer 8

If your partner is obviously distressed by what's happened there is no reason for the police to be acting like this - they need to take you a lot more seriously

Answer 9

Makes you sit and ponder doesnt it. I think I would hae presued this at the police station until I got what I wanted from them.

Any time someone threatens a life they should be dealt with accordingly right then and there in my opinion.

Answer 10

Write to head office and put in a complaint and ask them to get in contact to why there is so much negligence. Phone the police again and say you want more done and dont stop there...