What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside
1 Corin 5:12-13
just wondering your thoughts on this matter. Read above this verse to get the whole picture
2006-11-07 02:46:33 · 15 answers · asked by maybe 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
As the old saying goes, "judgement begins at the house of God."
I can't judge people outside the church because their lives are none of my business. They don't ask me for advice, and I have no jurisdiction to tell them what to do.
But for people inside the church, they are the ones who should "know better" so to speak and they should be held to a higher level. If the body of Christ cannot cleanse itself, how can it cleanse anyone else?
2006-11-07 02:50:13 · answer #1 · answered by cirque de lune 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
To get the meaning, you have to read the whole chapter. Even if you just add verse 11 to it, it makes more sense. What translation of the Bible are you using? For a cognizant meaning, I always go back to the King James. It says:
v 11 - But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner, with such an one no not to eat.
v 12 - For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
v 13 - But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Paul is warning of those who are "in the church" who are still wicked, and that those are to be "put away from yourself". Another example of salvation being an individual matter. He is telling them that until they themselves are without sin (which it tells us in multiple places that no man is without sin) they cannot judge others.
2006-11-07 03:43:29 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Well the thing is, man invented what I call "The Sin Scale" and man uses that to determine if a person is good or bad depending on whatever their actions or crimes might have been.
I think this is wrong as God is the judge. It isn't for us to judge other people, maybe we shouldn't even judge ourselves either.
Just my two cents worth.
2006-11-07 02:52:04 · answer #3 · answered by Dhara 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
1 Corinthians 5 A letter from Paul to the Corinthians
Expel the Immoral Brother!
1It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife. 2And you are proud! Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[a] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
6Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? 7Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you
2006-11-07 02:58:24 · answer #4 · answered by easinclair 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
It is the duty of a believer to fellowship and counsel with fellow believers. Judging inside the church in this case is refering to this duty. There is a phrase commonly used "Iron Sharpens Iron". I feel that if a brother or sister in Christ is doing something they shouldn't, a fellow brother or sister should bring it up to them and help them with it. This is not necessarily judgment, but counsel and fellowship. I would expect others to do the same for me.
Refering to "God will judge those outside", this is reminding believers that we are not to judge those that are not believers, God will do that. It is the believer's duty to witness to non-believers, and expose them to the Gospel so that they may be saved. We have no right to judge them.
2006-11-07 02:56:06 · answer #5 · answered by papag7222000 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Reading epistles should be like reading letters, you have to start from the very beginning and finish up to the end. That time, the corinthian christians were the advance christian in his times, they were prolific in their congregation, but there are problems that the church as ordinary church is encountering. These problems like, division in the church. The corinthian church are composed of Jews and gentiles. So you could put yourself to the author, as Saint Paul has so much headache with this group.
2006-11-07 03:06:12 · answer #6 · answered by The young Merlin 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Paul is admonishing the brethren in Corinth regarding immorality that was happening inside the church.
1 Corinthians 5:11-13 (KJV)
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1 Corinthians 6:1-12 (KJV)
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
I believed the explanation here is quite understandable and there is no need to erxplain them.
2006-11-07 03:15:57 · answer #7 · answered by NIGHT_WATCH 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
It means not to judge the unbelievers, for God will judge the unfaithful in the end. All you need to do is stay strong in God and keep learning about His Holy Word.
2006-11-07 02:51:16 · answer #8 · answered by sugarbeet 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋
This verse is speaking to those persons in the church who are closing their eyes to the corruption and sin within the church. Reminding them that we have been tol d before to go out and mingle with the world so that we can shine our light on them. But We the christians cant shine light if there is no light. First we need to take care our own sins and then bring to light those who claim to be christians who are not really. As things were of old so shall they be again.And so they are. The majority of people who claim to be Gods children are not. You shall know them by their fruits. When we understand that Gods children are not a spicific group of people who meet in a spicific building or that a person even darkens the door of a "church" building. For their are more who have no fellowship meeting than there are of those who are within these fellowship buildings. The children of God are those who have a real relationship with God and that you can see thier fruits simply by the lack of sin. Of course then we must detemine what really is sin? Sin is defined in the Bible as the breaking of the ten commandments. this is the true test for a person to know fellow believers. We all make mistakes, but if we are trying our best to follow Gods rules(the ten commandments) then we will develope a life of clean fruits.Just because someone goes to church does not make them chidren of God. No; those who are Gods true children are few in number and the judging is simply by seeing their fruits . We are not to judge as per say who is to enter the kingdom of God . ONly God can and will do that. If it were not for Gods mercy and forgiveness we would all be damned to an eternity without God. But instead as we see others who dont show the fruits who shamefully smear Gods name ,Yes we should confront that person if their part of our personal world. I believe it s not my job to run to and fro to all the local churches and point out their flaws and lies . but instead whereever God has put us there we can look around . are these people truly Gods ?do they try to show Gods character all the time? If not perhaps were in the wrong crowd . If it need be for example our own family. Are we living Gods love? Are we putting off our old nature and showing His love? If God shows us a person who may need guidance then we should spend time with them and we can in GOds love show them the light or if need be speak the truth in Love. But we are never to to think highly of ourselves for we are all sinners , some simply have asked for forgiveness and meant it and live it.
2006-11-07 05:08:42 · answer #9 · answered by kindle2 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋
In vs. 12, the idea is that we have no right to apply the same standards to people who have not professed Christ as Savior..As believers we have enough on our plate without having to call unbelievers to task. That is not our obligation. Vs. 13, says to leave the unredeemed to Him. If the believer will not repent of obvious wrong doing, and we speak of scandalous sins, then that person must be disfellowshiped.
Of course, I agree whole heartily.
2006-11-07 02:54:41 · answer #10 · answered by Gail R 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋