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about speaking in tonques and wives being silent in the church, is it proper to speak out loud and praise God in tongues. and is women suppose to be quiet in church and not talk that is what the Bible is saying.

2006-11-06 22:52:57 · 7 answers · asked by ministerprae 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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God is to be praised in church out loud and speaking in tongues is a form of worship. Prophesy is more valuable than tongues. by prophesy, Paul is talking about speaking the word of God over a person's life---profitably; we are never to use the word of God to condemn a person---warn, yes, but never to condemn. As far as women are concerned, this applies to pastoring churches. Certainly women are allowed and even expected to praise God openly in church, but should never pastor a church----this is a function that belongs to a man only. Women can have a ministry and they can teach other women and children, but they are not suppose to teach men. The prohibition against women speaking in churches allies to teaching and pastoring the general congregation.

2006-11-06 22:59:22 · answer #1 · answered by Preacher 6 · 1 0

First of all the Bible States;
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. in cor 14 :39
so to the people who say tongues do not exist is speaking from experience and not from the word of God The Bible! Do as corinthians 14 :38 say and let them be ignorant....But you shall not be ignorant do not forsake tongues
O.k. now To touch on tongues the word of God teaches that we should not preacther in tongues simply because no one will understand what you are saying. see
cor 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. 23If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? 24But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25and thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
The church of corinthian would use the gift of tongues to try to get the unbeliever to come to God. Tonuges is very important because it is a gift from the Holy spirit and it is not to be forbided.
We may pray in tongues and worship in tongues but we can not wins souls in church in a tongue the unbelievers don't understand: it's like me writing this answer in french which won't profit you any thing if you don't read french get it? Good!
Now for women: This chapter is about order: You will be in church all week if you could not hear anything the speaker was talking about if every time some one (in this church it was the women don't forget the corinthians left a practice of women worship athea, herodea and many female gods so women in that age had a high place in the eye of the men there) asked a question and you answered it so the women where told to learn in silence than ask thier husbands at home to explain what they did not understand in church. With this method in practice the people could hear the preacher talk without the sounds of conversations going on in the crowd
Yes this is a Good chapter of the Bible but sometimes it is misunderstood. The main themes are preach in a langue the un believer can learn from, learn in silence in the church and do not forbid tongues.
Stay Blessed

2006-11-07 08:01:53 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Tongues is a seperate issue. It is a gift, not for everybody, and if St. Paul doesn't expect everyone to have this gift, neither should anyone else. This is the best article on the subject I have found:
Different Kinds of Tongues: A Biblical and Linguistic Defense http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ34.HTM

Lets zero in on the one verse that mentions women being silent in church:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (KJV)

The phrase,"...but they are commanded to be under obedience..." means they are commanded not to take authority. It's called an interpolation. Keep in mind these are Jewish Christians of the 1st century, and a woman rabbi would be totally unthinkable.

It doesn mean women can't speak, or praise God, or even prophecy in church (see Paul's rhetorical question in verse 38), what it means is women cannot take on the role of priest in church.

There is no inequality here whatsoever (e.g., Gal 3:28). If women are unequal to men in orthodox (i.e., Nicene and Chalcedonian) Christianity of whatever stripe, then Jesus is not equal to the Father, since He subjected Himself to the Father (Phil 2:5-8) and even to Mary and Joseph (Lk 2:51). The Holy Trinity is a very apt analogy because it offers a clear example of an equality which nevertheless includes (by its very nature) subjection and differential roles - exactly analogous to marriage and male ordination. Thus, radical feminism logically leads to heterodoxy with regard to the Holy Trinity, or else undue skepticism towards the Bible. That's why sexual and theological liberalism are so closely allied - it is no coincidence. http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ116.HTM

2006-11-07 07:29:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think we have translation problem here. In I Cor 14:2 says that the tongues is heard only by God. No one man can hear the tongues with ears because they are tongues of heart. But the prophecy can be head by humans ears and only men can teach the people in church who haven’t yet reach to the first level of tongues

2006-11-07 07:25:54 · answer #4 · answered by thematofylaks 2 · 0 0

You got it almost right, but tongues doesn't exist today. If you think it does go out and find someone who has the ability to converse in a language that they have never learned. I'll bet you could spend your life and not find one.
It does not say wives, but women. Speaking in the context of that chaper is standing up in the sevice and preaching, not conversation, and most Bible believing churches still do not allow women to preach from their pulpits today.

2006-11-07 07:00:57 · answer #5 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0 0

apparently the guy who wrote corinthians has never met a woman. who in the world has ever met a woman who could be quiet for even 5 minutes, let alone a long church service?

2006-11-07 06:59:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Understanding is the key issue of this chapter: 1Cor 14: 14,15. The issue is whether understanding is unfruitful or fruitful; The conclusion being: let all things be done "decently and in order".

Decent: Grace-us, not divisional: Christ is not divided
Indecent: Childish-adults being carnal: divided law law

Order: charity edifies->exhorts->to comfort void of discomfort
Dis-order: law law loves puff up to discomfort void of comfort

With regard to "understanding" Solomon says: "with all thy getting, get understanding" in Prov 4, and further notes when understanding is embraced it results in thy head (Christ) being crowned with "grace glory"(not law glory), of two glories Paul compares for Corinthians in 2Cor 3; Noting we all are being chanGed: "from (law)glory to (grace)glory", as by the Spirit.

Let us firstly understand, from 1Cor 1:1,2, that Paul ("his witness unto all men": Acts), is writing unto carnal, childish, and divisional Corinthians: saints sanctified in "Christ Jesus" (mirrorly the reverse of Jesus Christ; which is also noted in 1Cor 1Cor 16:24), and as if unto the Church of God (the lower God of two high/higher Gods) at Corinth; And notably Paul writes to such as unto children(not adults) in understanding, and writes as an apostle of "Jesus Christ" through "the will of God": "I will have mercy, and not sacrifice"(Ps 40:6; Ps 51:16; Hos 6:6; Mt 9:13; Mt 12:7; Heb 10).

Let us also understand Paul begins 1Cor 14 with: "Follow after charity"; Charity being a topic Paul began in 1Cor 8:1, and expounds upon in 1Cor13, noting charity(perfect love) does not puff up to highminded from above, but rather first edifies up from below, then further exhorts higher up unto the God of all comfort.

Furthermore Paul notes in Galatians 4 it's all "allegory" in both "covenants"; So we have to look at 1Cor 14 as being allegoric, to understand the allegoric meanings therein.

So, to understand the allegoric meaning of 1Cor 14, and to have y(our) understanding fruitful (full of perfect love: first fruit of the Spirit) rather than unfruitful, we should look at Pauliine writings which preceed it, and also Pauline writings which follow after it.

And let us note 1Cor 16:21 is the first of Paul's thrice noting (1Cor 16; Col 4; 2Thess 3) he is also the author of Hebrews and Revelation, for the end thereof contains his hand written sign-ification of it, his salutation (token in every Pauline epistle) written with his own hand:

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ WITH YOU ALL. AMEN.

2006-11-07 09:06:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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