Is terrorism the real reason we need to secure our borders?

Answer 1

You ask the tragic question of our times, but the real answer about securing the borders has less to do with terrorism and more to do with politics and the "cost of doing business".

George Bush has decided NOT to secure the borders of the US against foreigners who want to cross over at will. By "ignoring the problem" - or pretending it doesn't exist - he doesn't have to do anything about it - right? A simplistic statement of "conservative thought", for lack of a better description.

But let's think about it. Mexico wants to get rid of as much of its uneducated population as possible. Bush says, "Hey, send em right in!" , and by so doing makes great friends with whatever government is in power in Mexico. The NAFTA agreement also plays into that scenario.

Some of this seems to be for the benefit of companies of all sizes in the US, many of whom give Bush large financial contributions - and which benefit from having influxes of people who can be hired at very, very low hourly rates - and who won't complain about tiny wages. Large agri-business companies are one example.

And it seems that the majority of the 11 - 15 million latinos who have "appeared" in the US, have crossed over the border illegally during the Bush administration - according to most of the "reliable" news sources.

At the CNN "Special" on illegal immigration, the conservative Heritage Foundation had calculated it would cost 2 trillion dollars over the lives of those latinos already in the US - for the education, hospitalization and health care, social security, and other social services etc., that they would need, but for which they could not pay out of their own pockets. Neither would their very, very low wages produce withholding tax revenues large enough to pay for these benefits.

As an example, it seems a frightening number of hospitals in the Southwest of the US have closed, becoming overwhelmed with latino patients who have no money or insurance to pay for their care, so the hospital closes when it runs out of money. "Free medical care" was never "free", but was subsidized by the hospital's income, and its receipt of voluntary contributions from members of the surrounding community. Now this free care has vastly outstripped the ability of the hospital itself and its supporting community to pay for it. The doctors are fired and the hospital closes. And now, NO ONE gets any medical care.

How long will the country last with declining numbers of hospitals? Or schools, since they too are being overwhelmed? And the list goes on.

The CNN special also pointed out that, every year, about 500,000 people get across our borders illegally who are NOT latinos - and some of those are members of the terrorist organization Hamas, or other terrorist organizations.

But the real, current problem is the numbers of latinos who are uneducated who are coming into the US who will never have jobs paying enough to afford the services our society provides, and will have to be given these free of charge.

And this society of ours will will ultimately fail if this illegal immigration is not stopped, and the current illegals are not picked up one by one and sent back.

Think about it this way: could current US citizens and government pay for the health care and education for ALL the Chinese in the world if they ALL decided to come here - for example? The (obvious) answer is no - the US cannot become the home of most of the people on earth, just physically if not also economically.

So why do people think we can absorb some large fraction of the entire population of Mexico? One which is uneducated? Which doesn't pay taxes, in many cases? Which can't pay for healtcare for themselves, and depend on getting it for free - which will cause the healthcare delivery system to fail at the point it runs out of money?

It's hugely more expensive to do it after the fact - i.e., now - than to enforce the law in the beginning.

You're going to ask why doesn't the US do something about this now?

Simple.

While many businesses say they would not be in business unless they had this source of very cheap labor - the real answer is the unbalanced Federal budget and the 300 billion dollars - and more - spent on the war in Iraq.

Bush decided not to "pay" for this current war by raising taxes, as many news outlets have pointed out. In this way, he avoids raising taxes for everyone in the US - and he stays popular with various segments of voters.

Instead, by allowing low-wage latinos into the US and not stopping them and sending them back, he gives a way to businesses cheap labor to operate profitably at much lower costs. And perhaps, businesses can operate even MORE profitably than before - because minimum wage laws don't apply to illegal aliens, and these illegal aliens won't complain because they're afraid they'll be arrested.

In this way the entire NET income of the US increases, and this increasing wealth can be used to offset the costs of fighting the war in Iraq, without raising taxes.

And isn't THAT a blockbuster thought!

And in this way, we all come to ACCEPT these 21st century slaves and the profits they produce.

Historically, wars could only be fought if the monarchy went out and sold the crown jewels, buying them back later by raising taxes. Meaning - government had to have the means to fight the war, but when they ran out of money the war would have to cease. But also - government had to have the approval of the population for the war, since taxes would be raised to cover the war.

George Bush seems to have a way to promulgate the war -not by raising taxes, but by providing cheap labor - so none of the population will complain.

But - like Franklin D. Roosevelt - he won't be around when the bill comes due for the social services bill which will expand hugely because of the latinos he has let into the country. So he doesn't care about what happens in the future, so long as he gets what he wants in the present.

What's happened is more business have succeeded under this formula, that otherwise would have failed. So -- more people with more income - at least the owners and managers of such companies - means fewer people question current policies on anything. At least until a CNN "Special" comes on and points out the overwhelming cost to the country, which all these profitable businesses won't have to pay - and won't be able to pay.

Question: Does that mean we can fight wars FOREVER? Will George Bush actually do that? Have you read the book by George Orwell, entitled, "1984"?

Has George Bush created 21st century slavery in the US?

To fund and fight a war in Iraq, or anywhere else?

And are the "slaves" eager and anxious to come fill those roles?

And have we as citizens welcomed these "slaves" with open arms?

And what will happen as hospitals and schools close. What strains will happen to the social fabric of the US as services become unavailable at any price? Civil unrest?

You may recall the Ken Burns' PBS series, "The Civil War". The statement was made in the first episode that - at the approximate beginning of the civil war - the value of slaves in the pre-civil war south was greater than the value of the assets of ALL US banks, ALL US manufacturing, and ALL US railroads COMBINED.

And now you also know why the Old South was willing to fight to keep its slaves at any and all costs. And the US is apparently re-introducing them, nationally. And Europe WANTED the South to win the war, because their slave population could produce cotton and cotton clothing far more cleaply than Europe could do it for itself.

Compared to that situation then and this situation now, are you just a little concerned??,... 'cause I know I am.

And the reason slavery could succeed in the early 1800's is that slaves in or about 1860 received NO wages, and received NO health care or education (at least, none to speak of..). That's essentially why the South survived as long AND as profitably as it did.

But the 21st century "slaves" mentioned here must be educated and given medical treatment and other social services, unlike 1860.

There are so many latinos now, their presence will bankrupt the country. While our society was somewhat out of fiscal balance before, it's now radically out of balance with the comparatively "sudden" appearance of 11 million people most of whom weren't here 6-7 years ago. All these new people demand services for which there is no payment, nor do they generate enough withheld taxes to pay for.

And that's the reason we need to secure our borders -- whether George Bush wants us to or not. And whether his war demands we keep them open ... or not. And whether we as citizens are currently being seduced by the "ownership" of these 21st century "slaves".

Unlimited immigration of the poorly educated is a romatic statement of the past growth of the US - because there was no huge social service machine to fund.

Now those social sevices are in danger of bankruptcy and disappearance under the weight of hugely increasing demand for which there is no payment. What is the better question is - what will happen to the social fabric of the US under these conditions?

PS Have you seen pictures of the "wall" on the US/Mexican border? Have you noticed how easy it is for people to climb these walls? Do you think that's an accident?

Answer 2

It's one of many reasons. It's not just Mexicans comming across the border. It has become the easiest way to sneek into this country from anywhere else in the world. Even if it was just Mexicans, they are still breaking the law. We've been at the "war on drugs" for how many useless years and they didn't do the obvious of sealing our borders. We have criminals escaping over the borders going both ways. We would be alot better off if they would have done this years and years ago.

Answer 3

It certainly can't be achieved the way we are doing it now. I agree a teach of capacity became needed after 9-11, yet we did that. it really is time to flow on and get decrease back to being the drowsing significant that the international has come to charm to close and concern. Getting decrease back to our own floor and observing our own borders is how you are able to get the message for the era of to a terrorist. Yeah your gonna have those human beings hijacked in Mid jap airports, yet when your gonna commute in yet another u . s . a . and not in any respect comprehend the protection of the airport your going to then your predictament is your own fault. Terrrorist want not something more effective than to regulate the authorities of their u . s . a .. If that u . s . a . quite needed them gone then their will be not something to sluggish them from accomplishing in basic terms that. Iraq has achieved not something yet drag their ft, which in turn has achieved more effective to assist the terrorists reason. The longer we are there the more effective their human beings will be disillusioned over our defense force's invasion of their lives. enable that burder fall to their own nationwide police.

Answer 4

It's all part of a ploy to reserve American jobs because of all the outsourcing and hiring of illegal immigrants because you can pey them barely anything, etc.

But really, there's multiple. Terrorism, yes, but also illegal aliens, smuggling, and escaping convicts. The real issue, IMO, comes to whether or not we may be TOO secure. I mean, you can make it so nobody commits even the smallest crime, but the cost of pulling that off means no privacy at all, etc.

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT! ... Well, he's to blame for everything, even hurricanes and crap that we can't possibly have control over, right?

I AM NOT A NUGGET!

Answer 5

Have you not read about Chavez creating a teaching center to teach illegals from other than Mexico, Spanish...this way they can pretend to be Mexican to enter our nation.

Did you also know the strangest thing being found on illegals at the border? Iodine tablets...why? The first thought is to take in case of nuclear fallout....scary...

Answer 6

It's one of the main reasons. It was pretty easy for terrorists to come in through the airports. Now, that there is more airport security, terrorists are going to go to our unsecured border.

Answer 7

I think so . People also need to remember it was NOT mexicans that killed all of those ppl on 9-11. We need to watch all people that come through are borders.

Answer 8

Only one of, we must also fix this illegal immigration problem, a secure border will help, it will help with the drug problem too.

Answer 9

no, it's all politics in an election year. an effort to get out the bigot vote.