I learned (re. my last question) that the new testament trumps the old testament. Does that mean that?

Question

the entire old testament is bunk including the Noah story and Adam and Eve story?

Mike you must be pretty old to be calling me "son".

eric - "Same reason we don't have regulations about how to build our roofs" But we do - called building codes.

You all have been very enlightening. You would think after eight or nine years of Catechism classes those nuns would have taught me something. But all in all I have to go with Kathryn's and Jedi's answers.

Answer 1

The OT and NT are both bunk.

Answer 2

The Old Testament is completely true, including the account of Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark. However, some of the laws given in the Old Testament no longer apply. The sacrificial law was done away with when Christ became the final sacrifice, and the laws regarding cleanliness were done away with when Jesus appeared to Paul and told him to eat some things that were considered unclean, and He told him that nothing He has made is unclean. Additionally, the purposes of those laws are fulfilled now by other means, such as easy access to good medicine, daily showers etc.

The moral law, however, is still in effect. Otherwise it'd be impossible to sin anymore and no one would need forgiveness.

Answer 3

All of it pointed to Christ and was fulfilled by Him. You don't get the full picture without the Old Testament, but the old law was "nailed to the cross" and the new law is the universal law that applies to the entire world from the beginning of Christ's church on - we'll all be judged by the word Christ has spoken. So, the old laws are out, but everything is true and reading the old can help with understanding the new (see the book written to the Hebrews for a good example). Hope this helps!

Answer 4

THe Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed. The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed. The primary purpose of the Old Testament was to prepare mankind for the revelation of the Living Word of God - the Lord Jesus Christ, as it is written "Lo I come, in the volume of the scroll it is written of Me" (Psalm 40:7, and quoted in Hebrews 10:7) and again "Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled". Then He opened their mind to understand the scriptures" (Luke 24:44,45) I believe it was at this moment the disciples were born again - "unless one is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) But as for the matter of Noah and the Flood, Jesus validated both stories in His teachings (see Matthew 24:38,39 and Matthew 19:4-6)

Answer 5

No the Old Testament is still true and still a very important part of the Bible like the New Testament is but things have changed now. We don't have to make the sacrifices they had to make because Jesus died on the Cross and became the Sacrifice for the New Testament. God used people like Noah and Moses to get His point across but now we have the Holy Spirit to guide us. It's still all true that is written, every word of it, just changed.

Answer 6

*sigh*

no.

Explanation:
Few people know how to explain the concept of dispensationalism; however, it is essential for understanding the very concept that you are discussing.

The Bible is split into dispensations (a word depicting the governing the God does and the administration He performs in a certain amount of time - or age) The first dispensation was one where man was created innocent (not perfect) and was transformed when sin occurred in the garden. The next dispensation was that of conscience, where man was left to do what was right to them, which held absolutely disastrous ramifications for the human race, including the flood.

The next was the dispensation of human government, which ended up resulting in the incident at the tower of Babel, where all of humanity was dispersed and separated by languages. Next was that of Israel, where Abraham entered the scene and continued all the way through the emergence from egypt. Next the Law, originally given on the top of mt. sinai, which continued until John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness, baptizing those who repented and declaring the coming Messiah. Then after the work of Christ we enter the Age of Grace and eventually upon His return the Millennial Age.

All that to say this: God desires more of man based upon his revelation to us. At first, salvation was offered to those who were blood descendants of Abraham through the nation of Israel; however, when Christ came, He offered it to the Jew and Gentile alike.

The Apostles were appointed to minister to the saved Jew and the Lost Gentile, which could not be done of the Law were forced upon the Gentile. Instead, there is given grace - forgiveness and freedom from the Law - to all those who believe. Included in that is freedom from the Levitical Law that states that we are to stay away from such things as pork.

Same reason we don't have regulations about how to build our roofs and what to do if we lose our donkeys.

hope that helps.

Answer 7

The Old Testament is very difficult to understand. It is like trying to find something in a room that is dimly lit.
When the New Testament was written 400 years later, it shed "light" on the Old Testament. After studying the New Testament, it is much easier to understand the Old Testament. It is like someone turned on the lights in a dimly lit room.

Answer 8

Many of the laws given in the Old Testament are the Laws of Moses. Those were fulfilled with the final sacrifice . . . Christ. No, that does not mean the stories are false. It means Christ came to take the Gospel beyond the Law of Moses and we are to live by what Christ taught.

Answer 9

The laws, ordinances, and statutes of the old testament expired once we were given the new covenant by Christ.

All the old testament scripture remains the word of God, and in full effect, along with the new testament scriptures.

You should have paid more attention in those catechism classes.

Answer 10

When people say things are obsolete in the Old testament, they're referring to all the laws that God had given the people. Christ fulfilled the law, therefore giving a new covenant. We are, however responsible for the moral aspect of the law. You're trying to eat meat and potatoes when you desperately need the milk.

Answer 11

No - the New Testament clarifies the Old Testament.

For example we see that the laws revealed that we are sinners but the NT gives the salvation answer through Jesus.