I believe that Jesus himself is God, but this verse of the bible confused me, it's written after Jesus ascended to heaven, you know that obviously. This is what it says:
1 John 4:12: No one has ever seen God. But if we love each other, God lives in us, and his love is brought to full expression in us.
But didn't Jesus say before that he's the invisible image of God, and the the father and him are one. What does that verse mean?
2006-11-05 12:09:49 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Just like doubting Thomas said when He saw the nail prints in Jesus hands, "I believe, My LORD & my God!". Jesus replied, "Blessed are you for you have seen and believed, but more blessed are those who believe who have not seen...".
It is written that Jesus is the express image of God. If we see Jesus we see the Father.
No one has ever seen God the Father (except for Jesus) in vision etc. because He is too bright & strong. Nothing can give Father God justice. Jesus only is the express image of God the Father. Because the Father & the Son are One. This is a Godly Spiritual unity.
People have seen God only the Word part of the trinity in Old Testament (When Jacob fought God & his hip went out of joint & his name was exalted to Israel, when Yahweh & angels visited Abraham on the way to judge Sodom & Ghomora, when Haggar saw God & didn't die, when the pillar of cloud by day or pillar of fire by night, when Moses saw God, etc...) and in New Testament as Jesus Christ.
God's love is in us and is the Holy Spirit seal on every born of God Christian.
When Jesus said on the cross, "My God... that was singular God El. Not Elohim (plural of El). Because when Jesus bore our sins on the cross there was a separation from God the Father. God broke for us.
2006-11-05 12:14:13 · answer #1 · answered by t_a_m_i_l 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Unquestionably Jesus was God. They crucified Him because when he was pointedly asked are you the Son of God He answered "Yes" (Mark 14:61-62). MANY other passages support this. I don't belief though that Jesus was primarily asserting His equality with God in this statement "I and the Father are One", although it's clear from the context that was how His adversaries understood it; but He was mainly asserting His complete harmony with, submission to and identification with the Father. Compare this with His high-priestly prayer in the 17th Chapter of John's Gospel and consider how Jesus used the term "one" there. His prayer was that His disciples would come into the same oneness with Him and the Father as Jesus had oneness with the Father. His prayer was answered and is yet being answered today. As for the verse you cite, compare John's Gospel Chapter 1:18. The sense is: no man has ever fully comprehended the Father. Indeed, to be able to fully comprehend God, you would have to be God. (see also I Timothy 6:14-16, where these statements are made in reference to the Lord Jesus) It is manifest Jesus is excluded from the statement as he is excluded from other general statements about mankind, such as "all have sinned...".
2006-11-05 20:38:53 · answer #2 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How wonderfully blessed you are to recognize this discrepincy in what you have been taught. Jesus is not God--he is God's son. When he says that he and the Father are one, he means that they are united in thought and purpose. In the same way, the Bible says that a husband and wife become one. It also says that we will become one with Jesus and God. Colossians 1:15 says that Jesus is the "firstborn of all creation" and it goes on to tell that all other things were created through him and for him. This lets us know that just as a Father shares his accomplishments with his children, God has shared all things (including creating the world and everything in it) with Jesus. May God bless you as you continue to search the scriptures to find the truth.
2006-11-05 20:22:04 · answer #3 · answered by Sparkle1 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No Jesus is the son of God. When Christ said My Father and I are one that means simultaneously one and different. One in relationship. Like a lover and Beloved. They are not actually one. He also said "My Father is greater the I." John 14:2 "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?
Matt. 27:46 He would not ask that question if He where God So the that's the answer no question after that and there are so many more Like " As You and I are one, let them also be one in Us." Jesus implies that his "oneness" with God is something that can be achieved by others. But the SOn never becomes God Get Book You Mean That's in the Bible by Satyaraja Das at http://www.krishnaculture.com Tells so many mistranslations In the Bible and shows What King Constantine took out regarding Reincarnation,Vegetarianism, and so muchmore
2006-11-05 20:18:14 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
They are in union as one. They are agreeable , alike it thinking and actions.
May God continue to help you find the truth in your searching of the scriptures.
God the father is the creator of all including Jesus when he was in the heavens as an angel along side of God and then he did so again when he was his only begotten son here on earth.
Jesus is not God but rather he was created by God first as an angel then as his son and now soon hes going to rule over mankind for 1000 years.But no he is not God.
2006-11-05 20:30:54 · answer #5 · answered by ~♥ L ♥~ 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Continue to read; 13 We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God (1 John 4:13-15)
This is speaking on the dimension of love and that God is love, and by excepting Christ and acknowledging Christ is the son of God; YES John Chapter one alone makes it clean that Jesus is God robed in the flesh, He was and is the word that was made flesh and dwelt among His people etc.
2006-11-05 20:30:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is a part of God. God sent his son to show people the truth. But Jesus was also a human and wasn't God himself. If you ever saw God you would die of holiness lol
2006-11-05 20:19:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth
2006-11-05 20:13:35 · answer #8 · answered by Tony S 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe that they are sepperate beings. When he says he is one with the Father, he means they are one as they have the same goals and that He is perfect like God. God is in all our hearts, but he also is his own being. Jesus in the Son of God, I think a large part of it is in how someone interprets the scriptures
Jesus died for us on the cross and choice to be our redeemer, God gave us bodies and sent us to Earth.
2006-11-05 20:32:54 · answer #9 · answered by terra_chan 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three in one, the Trinity. Jesus takes the image of God, just as it says in Genesis that "God made man in his own image."
2006-11-05 20:23:00 · answer #10 · answered by ironchain15 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋