Muslims kneel down, kissing and pray towards the black stone,( kaaba') in mecca. Is it an idol worship??

Question

Allah is the moon god of Arabian Pagan worship. Thus it is a sin to kneel to Allah. Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka'ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Muhammad came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side."But history establishes beyond the shadow of doubt that even the pagan Arabs, before Muhammad’s time, knew their chief god by the name of Allah and even, in a sense, proclaimed his unity...Among the pagan Arabs this term denoted the chief god of their pantheon, the Kaaba, with its three hundred and sixty idols."

Answer 1

You are so right. Even PBS said the same thing. They said that Mohammed chose one god out of 360 pagan gods to have the Arabians worship. He created his religion for his own benefit. They've even found statues of pagan Arabian gods that have the Muslim crescent on it. That's why they don't go back past the seventh century with their history.
Don't let these people who believe the lies of the overly "politically correct" media get you down. I'm with you. Allah is not the God of the Bible the God of the Bible is Yahweh, or Jehovah. That is his name. The God of Islam is Allah, and that is his name. Allah does not mean God in Arabic, it is the specific name of their God.
I'm not afraid, like you, to share the truth. Good job!

Answer 2

I must say that among the riot of angry and insulting "Answers" that I saw here, there were, at least, a couple of Muslims who didn't fly off the handle and tried to make sense like decanoe and hayaa.

I had been under the impression that the Ka'aba enshrined a Black meteoric pillar that was venerated as the "Sign from the Heavens" and can see that I was wrong, now.

Kneeling before someone or something is an age old way of showing their respect. Kissing the earth is, if I'm not mistaken, a show of gratitude, like kissing the Papal ring to show gratitude and respect for the Church or kissing the hem of Her Majesty - the Queen of England's robe as a show of gratitude and respect for the Crown.

I can find nothing wrong with that.

If the Ka'aba does, in fact contain idols or even if all these idols were destroyed by Muhammed; frankly makes no difference whatsoever to me.

If the Muslims want to do something like that, it's their Privilege and Right.

We've no rights whatsoever to comment on that.

Whether it's idolatory or not, is best left to them to sort out.

I'm sorry, but I do not think you should have been asking this, if you are not a Muslim.

Answer 3

Think about this. You say that the God I worship is some moon god statue from a couple thousand years or so ago and that I am worshipping a black stone in Mecca and that I kneel down and kiss the ground.
I say I worship the God of Abraham, would never even consider worshipping a piece of rock, the black stone is not the Ka'aba, and I kneel to God, and I do not kiss the ground.

You are not a Muslim, however trying to tell a Muslim what he/she believes? Does that make much sense to you? Do you honestly think that I as a Muslim should believe what you are saying?

Answer 4

Your question is scattering, you talked about many things, Islam, old Arabs, Kaaba, so I''l answer you concerning only the points that are related to Muslims.

We, Muslims, worship ONLY Allah not any thing else nor any one, nor even prophet Mohamed (Peace Be Upon Him), we know he is just the final prophet of Allah, and believe that he is a human like any other human.
So when we pray towards the Kaaba or Mecca, we do so as Allah has told us to do so, not because we worship Kaaba as you misunderstood, why would we, it's just a building of some stones, not more.

And about kissing the black stone, we do so as prophet Mohamed (Peace Be Upon Him) did so and Allah, again, told us to do everything that Mohamed (Peace Be Upon Him) did and the same way he did.

Answer 5

Christians regularly to justify their idolatrous practices - such as prayers to Mary - by claiming that Muslims "worship" the Black Stone at the Kaaba in Makkah.

Having been on hajj let me answer this based both on history and my own experiences. The Black Stone - Hajar al- Aswad - is NOT mentioned in the Quran. The Black Stone is located about five feet from the ground on the East corner of the Kaaba (this corner is known as "al-rukn al-Aswad").

While there are traditions about kissing or touching the Stone, its real significance is as marker of the point at which one starts the Tawaaf (circumambulation of the Kaaba as part of hajj or omra.) Even the traditions which talk about kissing or touching the stone are VERY CLEAR that the Stone is JUST A STONE!

BUKHARI:

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667:

Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "NO DOUBT, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A STONE AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT ANYONE NOR HARM ANYONE. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675:

Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said: "Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'BY ALLAH! I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A STONE AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT NOR HARM. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'"

MUSLIM:

Book 007, Number 2914:

Abdullah b. Sarjis reported: I saw the bald one, i. e. 'Umar b. Khattib (Allah be pleased with him). kissing the Stone and saying: BY ALLAH. I AM KISSING WITH FULL CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A STONE AND THAT YOU CAN NEITHER DO ANY HARM NOR GOOD; and if I had not seen Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) kissing you. I would not have kissed you. The rest of the hadith is the same.

The Stone is not be worshipped or regarded as anything but a marker.

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At hajj time you are actually unlikely to see the Black Stone: Masjid Al-Haram is just two crowded. There is a line on the floor of the Masjid to tell you where the line of the Black Stone is. Many hajis must perform Tawaaf NOT on the Kaaba floor but on the SECOND OR THIRD STORIES of the Majid Al-Haram!

On Levels #2 and #3 there are both marks on the floor and neon lights to show you where to start and stop tawaaf.

The scholars agree that waving in the direction of the Black Stone is sufficient recognition of its location as the start and stop of Tawaaf.

In actuality, waving in direction of the Black Stone is the best you will probably do at hajj time

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The Black Stone has had an interesting history during the Islamic period. In 930 AD a ruler of Bahrain - who belonged to a branch of Ismailism known as the Karmatians - sacked Makkah and carried the Black Stone away for some 70 years until it was ransomed.

In the process, the Black Stone was cracked. It is now held together by a silver band. The fact that Islam was able to function without the Black Stone for 70 years is one of the best illustrations that it is but a marker for Tawaaf - and NOT an object of worship.

Answer 6

Hi:).I will explain that on behalf of the muslims.i will answer with peace,God willing. Before Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h was sent by God(Allah) ,yes it is true that the Kaabah has many idols in it which was being worshipped by the pagans.Even during the time of Prophet Abraham pbuh, the pagans too had idols in it.Islam is an Abrahimic religion.Abrahimic religions are Judaism,Christianity and Islam.We believe in Oneness of God.Even since then we are against those who worshipped God other than Allah.It is impossible to have more than one God because if that happens for sure we will never have been alive as the Gods will fight for the power and Earth will never be created. Eversince Islam took over Mecca,those idolateries were removed. As an additional info,do take note that Allah means God in arabic.So it is not strange if a christian call their God,Allah if they were to speak in arabic.Just like many language in the world has different way to say the word God.The prayer direction of muslims is the Ka'aba.We do not worship the ka'abah but as a point of reference of our prayer.We worship Allah the almighty God.
Thanks for asking:) feel free to approach me if u need help.

Hidayat

Answer 7

Allah is the Arabic equivalent of the English word god. It is not a proper noun. Arabic evolved from the ancient trade language of the middle east, Aramaic. When the ancient people of the middle east spoke of the god of Abraham he was referred to as Alaha.

Al the purportedly christian holidays were taken from pagan religions. Does that make celebrating those holidays a pagan act? Many European churches were built on on formerly pagan temples. In some cases the altars from the temples were used in the churches. Does that make the parishioners of those churches Idol worshiping pagans?

Whether or not you like it Muslims worship the god of Abraham. The crimes of their extremists all go into the same column with the crimes of Christians and Jews to make the cult of the god of Abraham the most bloody and destructive delusion man has ever devised.

Answer 8

First of all "kissing" is not part of praying, secondly there is no "black stone" its a cover for the building made of black cloth. We all pray towards it not TOO it..... big difference.And Muslims know that the Kabba was full of idols and that people worshiped idols there.... its a fact. Nothing we are going to get angry over. Its common knowledge it was used as a shrine numerous tribal gods. When Muhammad and his followers came back to Mecca as conquerors the Kabba was rededicated as an Islamic house of worship. Muslims know this nothing to be "angry about" as you say. A pagan Arab is not a Muslim Arab. Whats your point????

Answer 9

Dear friend, please study the history, dont think that you are very intelligent and knowledgeable person, only fools will make statements like this, let you study history first, or atleast take some time to flick through the pages then you may know something about Islam and about all religions. Dont tell the world through your own words that you are a "fool". God has given you five senses will you take time to use atleast one sense, that is called "common sense". In the holy book of Quaran, Allah says that "I will not show the right path to those who do not use their brain", so do you want to be the one like that?

Answer 10

Allah is an arabic word for that stands for the name of God.

Its in the language mainly because the word God is literally: ILAAH.

Theyre derivatives of the same word.

Ahem...and u have a lot of gut to speak of a religion that forbids idolatry so much, it considers praying in an area with pictures and photos to be sin.

Id rather have an educated enemy then an ignorant friend.