My best friend and I were talking the other day--we are normally at odds on things like this. I'm the kind of person who thinks people can change over time--he disagrees. We both don't know what to think about this one.
Seven years ago a two boys brutally killed a three year old boy. They lured him out of a mall took him to train tracks, beat him, and inevitably killed him. It obviously was premeditated. They have been in a juvenile detention center since and are getting out with their records wiped clean after just eight years. Do you feel these boys could have changed in just seven years after doing something so brutal? What do you feel the punishment should be? As a parent how do you feel about this? What if you were the parent of the boys who committed such an act, do you think your feelings would change?
2006-11-04 16:43:28 · 17 answers · asked by .vato. 6 in Pregnancy & Parenting ➔ Parenting
I didn't realize they were already out! My friend was actually the one who told me about it the other day on the phone. It just tears my heart into peices!
2006-11-04 16:54:24 · update #1
They already got out and the mother of the boy knows where both of the boys live , she got an letter from an unknown sender telling her where both the boys were living and she went after them both, she said she found them and they both stared at her but she became frozen and could not move, they new exactly who she was and in an interveiw she said it gives her a sense of relief knowing where the bastards are and yes she did refer to them as bastards.
I think that the judge who made this decision is sick and has no right being a judge, if these boys were capable of such a thing as kids then WTF does she think they are capable now as adults?
I do not know how the mother of that boy made it threw this I mean if it were me I would of taken a gun and blown both thier braisn out the minute they walked out of juvi. Idf she were to kill them I do not think any court could convict her, she went to the law for help and they basically spat in her face.
Killers do not change, it is a proven fact. Give it a year these two will of killed another child.
The only thing I do not get is exactly WTF was she doing while her two year old was being snatched? He should have been in a shopping kart or holding his mothers hand. I feel very sorry for this woman but at the same time you can not help but say this is some of her fault.
2006-11-04 16:50:53 · answer #1 · answered by Diamonds_Glow 4 · 9⤊ 0⤋
I never heard about this. I'm not one to think that people change because I've been let down quite a bit by people who never changed. I honestly don't think 7 years is enough time for these boys. Why were they just in a juvenile detention center instead of a psych ward? I don't think any sane person could do something like this. My daughters will be 2 and 3 in April and things like this scare me to death. It seems these boys should have gotten mental help rather than the punishments they received. As far as their parents, I'm not sure of the whole case so I couldn't say how the parents might feel. How old were these boys when they did this? What if these boys go to college to be a teacher or someone dealing with kids? I think the judge was making a big mistake with this one from what I've gathered. With their records clean, these boys can go on to work with children. I would want to know if my daughters' teachers, doctors, etc had murdered a toddler when they were younger.
2006-11-05 01:03:32 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
sadly the probably got worse in juvenile. They were probably raped and were in there with other offenders that taught them other things. When they come out "if they have any feelings" they will feel guilty and maybe drink which leads to other things. On the bright side there record is clear so they won't feel like they are being judged by every employer. I personally think they should of been tried as an adult and gone away a very long time or death penalty.
2006-11-05 05:16:31 · answer #3 · answered by Big Daddy R 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Things like this send chills up my spine. That's why I almost didn't want to have children period, but then again, we need people having children, loving them and raising them to be good people. I don't think these boys will change, and knowing they are out there is not a good feeling. My feelings would not change either if I were their parent. To take an innocent life is a horrible thing to do. I would make sure they got all the punishment they deserved... and counseling too.
2006-11-05 01:15:55 · answer #4 · answered by m930 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think we change through the times we live.But that was to trumatic to overcome for me.I think if I were there parents I would like to take the boys on a trip to the grand canyon.It would be to much to get over.And always nag at your soul.It has not got one thing to do with growing older and calmer.I dont remember all the cuts Ive had on my fingers but I would remember if one finger got cut off.
2006-11-05 01:00:00 · answer #5 · answered by sceptic 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
although with therapy their behavior maybe able to be modified but i firmly believe that past behavior predicts future behavior..The crime seems to be very brutal as u had said...They seem to have sociological behavior which means that they may have not shown or felt little remorse for their behavior. I believe that in this case they may not change over time...especially due to the circumstances they are not regular minors with drugs or fighting...most children that have more manageable problems can be redirected and their behavior modified because they do not lack the humanist emotions of sympathy, or empathy..these two boys clearly lack those emotions...they need to be monitored closely..
2006-11-06 12:09:35 · answer #6 · answered by coopchic 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well to premeditate a crime like that they have to be cold hearted in the first place, as for changing, i think people can change, but wheather they have or not i don`t know, i cannot ever imagine what i would feel towards those boys if it were my child, but i know it would`nt be my child coz i keep them in eyes view ALL the time, i would like to think i could forgive them coz i`m a firm believer of hate harms no one but urself, it eats u away, takes the person u were away. it`s a difficult question.
2006-11-05 18:37:39 · answer #7 · answered by imyagoodluckcharm 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Punishment too light, no matter what their ages are. In my eyes, murder is murder. I know that I knew at a very very young age that killing someone was wrong. There is no excuse. Don't blame the parents either. Unless mentally disabled, we all are born with some type of feelings about what is right and wrong.
2006-11-05 00:52:09 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
well boys can grow up a lot in 7 years, but murdering another kid is something that's just wrong. if i was the parent of the boys i would want them to get as much help as possible. i think they can change their ways, but they still should be watched once they are out of juvey.
2006-11-05 00:52:36 · answer #9 · answered by Starry Eyes 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think that they should've been tried as adults.
They should have had to be imprisoned for 25 years or more for doing this horrible of a thing and to a toddler!
That's just wrong.
2006-11-07 12:02:49 · answer #10 · answered by Corie Lynn 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋