Is the American Civil Liberties Union ACLU really a communist based organization?

Question

My friend says if you check the history of the ACLU you will find it is historically based upon communism. Regardless of that why are they defending illegals and the rights of illegals in a city that wants to enforce immigration laws in their own city? They are not US citizens and they are violating immigration laws by being here.

We as US citizens cannot go to any other countries and be allowed to work without visas or reside in those countries without permission. Mexico kicked out the Rain Forest Indians who went there undersiege from their respective countries. We cannot go to Mexico and work without difficult visa work permits. So why are they fussing about us trying to enforce the same laws that Mexico enforces?

That was all I heard in the news and a well educated woman told me that the ACLU is based upon communist principles. Which I think are grand ideas but do not work because the lazy get more than they should and the workers have their efforts taken from you then the leaders who do not follow the principles get more than their fair share of everything.

I just cannot believe some of the things they do regardless and make it sound like they represent us they came here locally and in the name of our people without having done a petition by our local people sued our city for having up Christmas decorations such that the local people got together and did a petition to make them stop. This is a high Baptist region that is tolerant of all religions but we like seeing Santa Claus all lit up and waving (electronically) at us at the entrance of Niceville every year. We also have Rudolph with a lighting up nose. That was just rediculous for them to sue our city for something and not have one complaint by locals.

ON the ACLU it is a private nonprofit organization not a government associate anyone can apply for nonprofit status if they pay all the fees and want to be watched a bit. I could start a nonprofit organization or business to protect the Apple Snail if I wanted..and get donations which I have not heard of yet.
The ACLU does not represent me at all and never asked for my membership nor do I want to join them as they do not represent my values in many cases they went after. They do not represent me and I resent them claiming they do by saying all Americans believe and think as they do by their selection of their name.

They kept the possible terrorists of 9-11 off shore because the US population at that time was too afraid to have them on US land and territory right after 9-11 it was as much to protect them as to protect us. Do you remember all the attacks upon the Mosques after 9-11?

At least to start with. Many of those released went right back to terrorist cells.

Oh another lawsuit I wonder how much money they get claiming they represent me?

Answer 1

Yes, the goals of the ACLU were clear from the group’s founding, as indicated by the writings of its founder, Roger Baldwin: “I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class… Communism is the goal.”

Answer 2

No they are not.

There is a slight connection, in that one of the people (Baldwin) who founded an predecessor to the ACLU also was a member of the Communist party, well before WW-2. However, if you check, Baldwin also left the communist party when it started advocating violence. More importantly, of the dozens of people who helped form the ACLU nearly a century ago, only one had even that tenuous a connection.

Many people don't like the ACLU because the ACLU will defend anyone's rights, no matter how nasty the person is. But what those people don't understand is that rights only matter when they are needed. It's easy to say that you support civil rights if they are never being tested. It's when the test cases involve horrible people that convictions are really put to the test.

BTW, remember that ACLU will defend anyone's rights, even people like Rush Limbaugh who hate them. Their sole goal is to defend the Bill of Rights, particularly the 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments. Other groups focus on the 2nd and 8th Amendments, so the ACLU concentrates on the remainder.

As far as the Escondido (California) suit, read the details (link below). The law would require all landlords to provide information about citizenship to anyone who racially could be an immigrant, whether they are legal or illegal. Not only is this racial profiling and racial discrimination, but it also violates federal housing laws.

The ACLU isn't fighting for the rights of illegal immigrants. They are fighting so that 42% of the town -- including tens of thousands of legal immigrants and naturalized citizens -- are not forced to turn over private data to the government, data that federal law prohibits the town from collecting.

And they're not alone. It's not just the ACLU that's opposing this law. It's also Fair Housing Council of San Diego, and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. They are trying to stop racial discrimination and force the town to obey federal law.

Why do people seem to have a problem with that?

Answer 3

The US Constitution applies to our country. It protects the rights of everyone here. Why do you think the Bush regime kept POWs off shore, and avoided Supreme Court review for so long?

Even so, when the SC did opine they basically said the laws are for all in US jurisdiction.

I don't know the laws of Mexico, but what Mexico does is not relevant; we enforce US laws and US rights here. The mission of the ACLU is to work to see that these laws and rights are upheld for all in US jurisdiction.

None of those I know in the ACLU are Communists

Answer 4

That's true, once upon a time back in the day, one of their founding members was found to have been a communist...

California senate said the ACLU was communist-affiliated.
2. California Senate Fact Finding Committee on Un-American Activities, 1948 report, page 107: "The ACLU may be definitely classified as a Communist front or transmission belt organization." "At least 90 percent of its efforts are on behalf of Communists who come in conflict with the law."

Answer 5

To understand the ACLU and why conservatives oppose them, requires an understanding of Constitutional law and the history of our government.

To try to make a long story short, ACLU follows a positivist theory of interpreting the Constitution.

Conservatives believe in strict constructionism.

Christians are not the enemy, but they well may become the scapegoats.

Answer 6

Just read the bill that our President signed last month,
Government lawyers also argue in court papers that detainees such as Khan previously held in CIA sites have no automatic right to speak to lawyers because the new Military Commissions Act, signed by President Bush last month, stripped them of access to U.S. courts. That law established separate military trials for terrorism suspects.
ACLU defends the rights of those people so that when it happens to you, it wont.
If you are arrested as a suspect today, under that law you have no rights, Constitioun be damed, Guilty first, Lawyer access if and only if you are released.
Now as far as Illeagals go, we are all illeagal because we are all potential suspects, thats the new law.

Answer 7

The ACLU was founded by a self described Marxist.

Answer 8

Back to calling people communists?

Some of us stuck in the 1950's are we?

Answer 9

There are still communists in the midst?

Answer 10

Yes, you'd think so. All the cry babys go grying to them to fight their fight. Kind of like back in school days, they go cry to teacher, every ones picking on me.