ok how can christians condem jews and muslims to hell????

Question

if every christian believes that God is the "Father & the son & the holy ghost" you say that the only way to worship God is by worshiping jesus, but God has three forms according to you, so couldnt you worship any of them, they are all the same person arent they? and they are all using the holy book given to them by prophets of God right?and i think that when jesus said "the only way to the father is through me" i think he meant through "His" teachings not by worshiping him.

i'm just saying if jesus and god and the holy spirit are all one person then by worshiping god they are worshiping jesus, right? i think so.

Answer 1

G-d dose not wish any one to parish, but to have ever lasting life, why condem the Jews, Jesus is a Jew also, if it were not for the Jews no one would no about the real G-d, it is through them that G-d was offered to the world, it is through Jesus we are reconciled to G-d. Satan hates G-d first and the Jews second and then the rest of mankind, Satan wants you to hate the Jews he wants you to carry that hate with you so you will be doing his will not G-ds. When you pray to G-d you say in Jesus name I pray or I ask it. Jesus said anything you ask in my name, you will receive. He also loves the Muslims they are just misguided and are not worshiping the real G-d. That is why the bible says to spread the word all over the world then the end will come. How you judge people he will judge you by those same standards.

Answer 2

Where did you hear that we say that the only way to worship God is to worship Jesus?

I sort of agree with you about what you said, "'the only way to the father is through me' i think he meant through 'His' teachings not by worshiping him."

I used the qualifier "Sort of" because we believe that He IS God. And if He IS God, then we should be allowed to worship Him.

You also said, "i'm just saying if jesus and god and the holy spirit are all one person then by worshiping god they are worshiping jesus, right? i think so."

NO! God is composed of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. If I can adjust this slightly to make it a metaphor, what you basically said was that if you talked to SmartAlx (like to my face) you would be talking to my right ear. It's the other way around. If you talk to my right ear, you are talking to me.
If we worship God, we worship God. If we worship Jesus we worship God.

Answer 3

We can't. I've learned over the years not even to argue the point. When you become a Christian you enter into a relationship with a person and that proof is impossible to explain until you feel it yourself. At first God draws you to Him and you accept Jesus' death on the cross as payment for your sin, you accept Christ as your Saviour and Lord of your life. I'd underline the word "your" if I could. The faith that draws you to Christ is a gift -- how do you explain a gift? But once you accept Jesus into your life, you also have a new person in your life which you can feel from the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Once you have felt that indwelling and start to let Jesus lead your life, it's something you can feel, you know it's there. All the arguements in the world can't make that feeling go away, so we listen and then we say to ourselves, the reason I believe now is because I feel Jesus' presence in my life and frankly arguing about it to convince me otherwise is boring and ultimately fruitless. I've also learned not to even try to explain the gift of faith by logic. C.S. Lewis wrote a great book called "Mere Christianity" and Billy Graham has written a number of good books with logical proofs. Good as they are, they just don't do a person any good at all unless God first draws you to Himself. I just tell people what happened to me and they can think anything they want about it. My shepherd has already filled in my day planner and life planner. However I'll answer your question this way and it is a quote from C.S. Lewis long after he wrote "Mere Christianity." He said, "There are some people who say to God, Thy will be done and there are some people to whom God says, thy will be done. It's the best logical answer I think there is.

Answer 4

I think it's faith. There is no way to have faith in the Holy Bible and believe that there are any other true Gods or any other forms of Jehovah God than the ones prescribed in scripture. Remember, that is assuming that you choose to have faith in scripture.

Another thing to remember is that when Jesus wanted to be figurative He used parables. All the rest of the time He was being literal, and when He said there is "No way to the Father except through Me" He wasn't telling a parable.

Thirdly, based on FAITH in the scriptures (which is totally individual choice), Christians don't condemn people to Hell and God doesn't send people to hell. The ones who do that is the people themselves. God has never sent a man to hell, but many men have sent themselves. Whats the difference? Choice.

Answer 5

Worship God and live your life exactly like Jesus did on earth. Don't condemn others when conversing with them. Display the love that Christ conveyed to them. Tell them the truth, but do not coerce or force them to accept Jesus. Your only duty is to convey the message. Let the Holy Spirit convict and educate them that there is no other way than acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior.

Answer 6

First and foremost, while orthodox Christianity believes in the Trinity and, therefore, that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all co-equal and should be worshipped as One (echad -- as opposed to yahid or yachid), this is not the same as saying that as long as anyone worships 'the Father' that they are worshipping the SAME God as Christians do. This is made manifest by the understanding that to the Jews and the Muslims, god is a monad -- a simple ONE -- rather than a Trinity. In other words, both the Jews and the Muslims dismiss the concept that there is a plurality in the godhead as being radically unorthodox. As such, one can see that the use of similar or exact terms doesn't necessarily mean that these terms are equal.

As a further example, the god spoken of by Jews and by Muslims differ radically -- so radically that while some (not all) Jews might mention YHWH (Jehovah) as 'Father,' Muslims never do -- at least not in the familial sense. So, while most religions use similar terms these terms must be defined before we can discuss what they may or may not mean. Just so that there is no confusion I'll go one step further and define the term 'Father,' in its use towards the godhead, by three distinctly different religious systems:

Christianity: The Father is the economic head of the Trinity but is not a single personage out of three others (i.e., not part of a tritheistic godhead but, rather, a pluralistic monotheism).

Jehovah's Witnesses: The Father is a simple monad -- an absolutely monotheistic head -- who is the creator of Michael the Archangel who became Jesus the Christ. The Father is NEVER said to be part of a trithiestic godhead or of a Trinity.

Mormons: The Father is the head of many gods (polytheism) and became god after 'ascending' through many different levels of understanding (simplified for this discussion). He was once a man (mortal) just like we are.

Okay, now that we understand that terms aren't always what they appear at first, I'll delve further into your question.

You suggest that when Jesus stated that 'the only way to the Father is through me' that he meant 'His' teachings rather than through worshipping Him.

You're partly correct.

The verse you are quoting is John 14:6. However, in context, the disciples have just ask Him (Jesus) to show them how to get to where He was going. His answer is that HE was the only way to get to the Father. In fact, Jesus uses singular definitives when He states, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

So, while He was definitely teaching that He was the ONLY way to the Father, He also explained that He was the full representation of the Father -- the God that the disciples (as Jews) had learned about in the Old Testament but had, until His arrival, experienced. Another way of saying this is: 'If you want to know what the Father is like, look at Jesus.'

In John 3:36 we find that "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."

This verse is specific and it does not hold the connotation of simply believing in a doctrine or teaching but, rather, an individual person.

Also, in Acts 4:12 we find the following statement concerning Jesus: "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

I'll quote the verses I'm referencing at the end of this post.

Another fact to consider is that no Jew could declare that anyone other than YHWH was God because it was (and is) blasphemy. Had the 'way' to the Father been only the 'teaching' of Christ then the declaration of Thomas (and others) that Jesus was indeed God would have been blasphemy and Jesus (as a rabbi) would have corrected such declarations (or He would have been under the condemnation of condoning blasphemy). As it is, the Gospel are replete with the understanding that it is Jesus Himself who came to take the sins of the world upon Himself -- not that He came to correct the world through adequate or inspired teachings. Paul, in his epistles, makes it even more abundantly clear that it was and is the person of Jesus Christ on whom salvation depends (read Romans).

You might also note that we are told... "`If you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord you will be saved.' Romans 10:9

Jesus' manifestation as 'God in the flesh' on earth was the culmination of centuries of messianic prophecies. If this wasn't of paramount importance then another prophet could have been sent to correct the ways of the people through godly teaching.

Okay, onto the 'teaching' aspect of what Jesus taught. When I said that you were partially correct about His teaching being what helps towards salvation, I meant it. What Jesus taught (His teachings) was that man is completely lost without Him. John 3:16 etc. makes it abundantly clear that Jesus was the personal revelation of God that could save us from our sins. It is on HIM (Jesus) that we must believe. That is the summation of His teaching as it concerns salvation.

Finally, as it concerns heaven or hell as a final destination, the Christian does not 'condemn' people to either place. While we may make note of the fact that the Bible states that those who do not accept Jesus Christ as their Savior will go to hell and that those who do will live forever in heaven, this is not the same thing as condemning them.

Hope this helps.

Rev. Lonnie Honeycutt

Aforementioned section of John...

4 You know the way to the place where I am going." 5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?" 6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." 8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." 9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

Answer 7

What you think matters nothing. It is what God expects that matters. Christians only repeat what God said. The trinity is more like 3 personalities than 3 beings. They are spirit and mankind can not rationalize spirit realm. Christians are not the ones condemning to hell.

Answer 8

We Christians cannot condemn any one to hell. Sorry but that's a misunderstanding by both Christians and non Christians. An atheist, agnostic,Muslim,Jew,or a christian themselves condemn themselves. We do this here and now in our lives that we live. We do this in our thoughts, actions, and words. And we are consistent in condemning ourselves. Whether we know the Christ or not we cannot gain entrance to God's Kingdom without the Christ. Jesus himself will know you whether you are Christian or a child that has never heard or Him. He will know you and speak for you or He will not know you and cannot speak for you.
It is literally how you live with what you have that decides your afterlife.Not God. You. You live evil then you reap the rewards of evil. If you live this evil with a full or partial knowledge of the Christ then the same will happen.
Simple eh?

Answer 9

Of course we worship Jesus as God. That is who He is... God in human flesh... As for condemning Jews and Muslims to hell... Sorry not my job. God makes those decisions.... Jim

Answer 10

A better question would be why would any one no matter what their belief reject the love of God which is Jesus His Son? East, simple, if you love God, accept His love in Jesus. If you don't love God then do your own thing. Christians do not judge, rather they proclaim judgment as per scripture.
2Cr 5:18 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
I Cr 13;8a, Love never fails!!!!!
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