My 16 yr old daughter is a manipulator and even manipulated her phsychiatrist. Now what?

Question

She was dumped by her boyfriend about 6 months earlier and went to pieces and so I took her to a psychiatrist. They hospitalized her and she started on Zoloft, the lowest dose available. After a couple sessions with the psychiatrist. She was up to 125 mg then he wanted me to increase the dose to 200mg. I am not allowed in on the counseling sessions, but the psychiatrist tells me she claims to still be depressed and suicidal. She was shaking so badly, I took her out to eat, and she could not hold a fork. I had to take her to the ER for strep and the ER doctor was appauled, by the high dose and told me to get her off the Zoloft by decreasing her dose in 1/2. then cut down again then again, so I did. She is much better now. I found out she was throwing up in the trash can in her English class and they called me to come and get her out of school because she was so out of it. My daughter is such a manipulator. I dont know if her psychiatrist a quack. She is 5'2" and weighs 99 lbs

I am not a manipulator.
My daughter likes the buzz she gets off the drugs they are giving her not limited to the Zoloft, Risperdal, Clonidine, and others. She broke into the hall closet where her meds are locked up and took the remains of her clonidine 4 tablets. I freaked and drove her to the ER where a suicide evaluator seen her and sent her home with me with the suggestion, I take the drugs out of the house. I kept them locked in a sentry safe until my daughter managed to get the combination and then I just threw them away. Cant do that kinda stuff at our house. I have a son who has lived with me his entire life and is totally normal. No problems. The problems started with a nasty judge decided to split custody of my 2 kids and my daughter ended up with her dad. Its more than just a boyfriend breakup.

She was fine when she was at home and I could actually hear her singing to the tunes of rap music and she had friends over. She went to school every day and I never seen any signs or symptoms of depression. She was going out with friends and driving my car all over town. She had a friend come to visit from another sate. The counselor is the person who cued me in that she was manipulating. She actually told me to be careful because she was sly. I didnt make this up on my own. She was digging the high she was getting off the drugs being prescribed. She told the psychiatrist she could not sleep at nite and I couldnt get her up out of bed in the morning.

She quit throwing up when she was taken off of Zoloft. It was a side effect.

She was shaking over the high doses of Zoloft. When we weaned her off the Zoloft, her shaking subsided.

I am not saying she was faking strep throat. Her strep screen came back positive. I am just saying the strep which led us to the ER because she couldnt swallow was what brought us to a ER physician who actually thought the high doses of Zoloft, Risperdal and Clonidine were ridiculous. 200 mg of Zoloft. COME ON!

Answer 1

You are really having a rough time. If your daughter is under18, don't you have a right by the law to access her records? It might affect the therapeutic relationship with her psychiatrist. But I must tell you that psychiatrist are not trained to counsel in the way that your daughter needs. She is in need of a therapist that works with the psychiatrist. Even the releases of information that need to be signed must be signed by you because you are her guardian up until she is 18 years old. If she is the one signing all of the forms then she needs to be the one paying all of the bills in regard to her treatment. Maybe if you stated to the psychiatrist that you are not going to be responsible for her treatment if you cannot meet with him and discuss your daughter. A competent psychiatrist and a conscientious one would want to get your take on what you were seeing. he would not just prescribe medication. Maybe you should seek out another psychiatrist. Is there a community mental health agency in your area?. They usually have counselors, psychiatrists, and case managers that work as a team.

I have included some links for some of the laws from most of the states starting with Ohio and an explanation of HIPPA

Good luck

Answer 2

So sorry to hear about your daughter. The problem with the whole thing, in my humble opinion, is that parents are disencouraged from being active in the participation. So, whatever your daughter tells the psychiatrist is all she has to go on. Also, a lot of psychiatrists want to get started on meds right away, and do not look at other possible causes. I don't know what I would do in your situation, you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. See if you can set up an appointment for "yourself" as a patient, and then let the same psychiatrist know what she is doing. He will then be forced between a rock and a hard place. He will have to deal with both of you, nearly simultaneously.

Answer 3

I KNOW you need another psychiatrist. All psychiatrists are different. I have tried to manipulate some I have had..it didn't work. Most of them know when they are being manipulated. Most therapist want the parents involved so they can help outside of therapy. If she is a minor, I would question why aren't allowed in there. I am 35 but my therapist encourages me to bring my family for counseling since they are the problem. She may need another med. too..I am not a doctor so I can't say..All I can say is to look until you find a good one and I admit, they are few and far betwween,,at least here where i live but there are some good ones out there

Answer 4

It's time to find a new psychiatrist. And don't stop until you can find someone who really helps. It's not uncommon to try one or two psychiatrists before finding the right one. Try to be her advocate instead of finding fault--"she's a manipulator." Your daughter is screaming for help. Support her, give her what she needs. Let her know that you love her every day. There must be a reason she is so needy right now. And be strong for her sake.

Answer 5

It is important for her to be able to talk to the psychiatrist without you. However, it is also important for you to be involved in her treatment. If this psychiatrist is pushing you out then find another one. I saw 4 different psychiatrists before the one I am currently with. Sometimes it takes a few tries to find the right one.

Answer 6

What's manipulation got to do with this? If she's sick then she's sick - physically or emotionally doesn't matter. You can't fake strep throat or manipulate people into believing you have it. You either have it or you don't. Who did she manipulate, and by what means? Are you suggesting she was faking the shakes when you took her to eat? And that she purposely threw up in English class?

Answer 7

MY opinion,get her the hell away from that doctor,find another one who has not only patient therapy but family therapy also,since she is 16,she is not old enough to make a well judged decision,she's still very impressionable,manipulative or not.I went through rehab for 20 years of use and in that time that is a place of living where thats all there are ...Manipulators so please look for another physician

Answer 8

Maybe entering a psychiatric residential program for 12 weeks at a local hospital would help. Someone needs to monitor her consistently to tell if she is manipulating or how much treatment or meds she actually needs. Look up borderline personality disorder, too.

Answer 9

She's pretty troubled and needs professional help. For sure not that dr. You should try to get her the help she needs. She may be bi polar.

Answer 10

OMG!!!
Talk about overdosed!
Get that kid another psychiatrist!