what if you don't believe people will go to hell, but you believe that jesus is our saviour, doesn't that mean that the no hell thing cancels out jesus as a saviour because he's not saving you from anything?
2006-11-04 08:12:21 · 13 answers · asked by Luna Winter 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
i DO believe jesus was here, but maybe he's not our messiah.
2006-11-04 08:19:04 · update #1
well maybe it's not that i don't belive in hell... i think it's just i don't WANT to believe in hell. But the person who said hell exists, no matter what you think, may be right. Heaven is not for those who are bad... hell is for those who are bad. I am sorry for asking this dumb question when the answer was obvious.
2006-11-04 08:29:29 · update #2
well, if you don't believe in hell, what did Jesus save us from?
2006-11-04 08:14:58 · answer #1 · answered by nameisie90 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe in hell as most people picture it : a burning pit where the souls of the wicked dead go to upon death of the individual, and where those souls are tormented day and night throughout eternity. Such a place does NOT currently exist, according to the Bible. Where are the souls of the dead, both wicked and righteous? Asleep in the grave. After all, the soul is the body and the breath. The breath (life force) returns to God; the body sleeps in the grave.
The Bible does teach, though, that there will come a time when the wicked dead will be resurrected to receive their just reward: total annihilation by fire in a short space of time. This is what Jesus saves you from : total destruction, as if you never existed!!
Instead, He offers eternal life without any suffering. I serve Jesus not because of fear of hell fire but because He has offered me the GIFT of eternal life, and peace , and joy, and a promise to explore the heavens - far-flung galaxies, and become an ambassador for Him to these other unfallen worlds where the people never sinned.
Read your Bible : it's all in there , even if some of these may sound like strange doctrines to you.
2006-11-04 16:33:50 · answer #2 · answered by flandargo 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus says there is a hell and he says who will go there people by their free will choose how they live their lives the warning has been given it doesn't matter if 99% of all the people in the world don't believe in hell it still is real the eternal lake of fire is created for Satan and Satan angels if people choose to follow him there that is there choice God says you are either for me or you are against me there is no in between heaven or hell life or death you must decide what you will believe if the Bible is wrong and i have been deceived i don't have nothing to lose but it is not wrong and i have heaven to gain any way what is so wrong with being right living a life of love God is Love he Love's the world for this reason he gave his son.
2006-11-04 16:23:26 · answer #3 · answered by jamnjims 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not necessarily, because if the atheists are right and people before Jesus' coming just decomposed back into the earth after they die d with no eternal future at all, then Jesus would have saved us all from non-existence when He died on the cross.
So even if there was no Hell, Jesus could have saved humanity from eternal oblivion, which in my opinion would be even worse than Hell, because at least you exist in Hell.
2006-11-04 16:27:42 · answer #4 · answered by STILL standing 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What the hell did jesus save me from? Hell. I don't believe in hell. Good point.
2006-11-04 16:20:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yikes my head is spinning after that.
OK. Well, yeah, from your logic...if there is no hell, Jesus didn't die for humans sins and he didn't save the Christians. So Jesus can't save people from hell if there isn't a hell. And if there isn't a hell, then there are no sins worthy of punishment in hell. No sins, no hell, no Jesus no god. Therefore no religion, too. Peace on Earth, good will to all.
2006-11-04 16:19:40 · answer #6 · answered by hvjhv 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It depends on what you think Jesus saved you FROM. The classic answer is, "the consequences of sin". But there are some logical and theological problems in reconciling a just, sin-punishing God with a merciful, sin-forgiving God.
There is also that "eternity" thing. We have no concept of an enduring "now" independent of time, so we translate it as infinite duration. But torture (or bliss) after a few billion years would tend to lose its meaning or effectiveness. And fire? Scary, but we're talking about disembodied "souls". Obviously it's some kind of metaphor.
Some theologians move away from the idea that heaven and hell are physical locations and concentrate on states of mind. What is the guiding principle of Christianity? Love! Reaching out in compassion to others. Its opposite would be indifference, selfishness and withdrawal. Perhaps the afterlife is an extrapolation of these tendecies. Heaven would be an endless experience of reaching out in love and embracing all. Hell would be the ultimate withdrawal and isolation of fear and egotism. So Jesus wouldn't be saving us from fire and brimstone but rather from ourselves, from our self-inflicted torments and timidities.
Luke's gospel is known as the gospel to the gentiles, because it emphasizes a more universal role for Jesus than his messianic mission to the Jews. In fact, that is where the term, "savior of the world" appears. But most Gentiles did not come with an understanding that they were born owing God something. And the concept of hell as a place of punishment did not exist in the Hebrew scriptures. The idea was imported from the Greeks as a solution to the problem of post-mortem justice, but it was more of a karma thing than a judgment by an all-scorekeeping God. So we could consider it a man-made idea. So Jesus could be saving us from our inferior human notions of reward and punishment being necessary to give existence meaning.
So why did he have to die to do it? Everybody dies. Often it is the fear of death and annihilation that motivates us to do many of the crazy, self-serving things we do to each other. Maybe Jesus is showing us not to be afraid, that there are things in life more important than worrying about your own personal survival. There's that love thing again, urging us to suffer and sacrifice our own wealth and security for the sake of others. Awfully radical, and very impractical. Still, it would save us a lot of worry.
"Whoever loses their life for my sake will save it..." What kind of a "savior" is that? What indeed!
2006-11-04 18:04:24 · answer #7 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus spoke about hell so you can not believe Jesus and not believe in hell. muslims bleave Jesus was a prophet but do not accept him as saviour.
2006-11-04 16:18:21 · answer #8 · answered by Mim 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
yeah i guess so. I never thought of that. I believe in hell though. Who believes in Jesus but not hell?
2006-11-04 16:14:21 · answer #9 · answered by ctgirl206 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
More than likely! Why don't you believe in hell???? Do you think everyone is going to heaven good or bad?? Or do you not believe in heaven either?
2006-11-04 16:19:56 · answer #10 · answered by panda 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋