My agility instructor has one and it is the sweetest dog. It has the personality of a golden but it is a more manageable size! I know it is definitely a more appropriate breed for an active owner. They are $1000! I'm hoping the breed will gain popularity (it was just recognized by the AKC) and it won't be quite so expensive. If anyone is looking to get a dog that they can do agility or obedience with or take jogging or hiking, check this breed out! They are also excellent with children. They are so cute, too!
2006-11-04 01:43:04 · 7 answers · asked by SHELTIELUVER 3 in Pets ➔ Dogs
Great dogs----if you're the right kind of family.
Tollers are very deceptive.
Outside: all fuzzy and cute
Inside: Engine by Ferrari
The ones I've met are also smart and a combination of willing and willful that can be charming---or less than charming if you don't appreciate their humor.
I hope they never gain the popularity of the other retriever breeds because where a lab or a golden could fit in many homes, I think there are many fewer homes to suit a toller.
2006-11-04 02:52:24 · answer #1 · answered by bookmom 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"I'm hoping the breed will gain popularity "
DON'T EVER WISH THAT ON ANY BREED!!
Every time a breed gets popular, they go downhill in health, temperment and structure (and brains as well..) It was Cockers in the 40s/50s; then Collies in the 60s; then German Shepherds and Dobes in the 60s and 70s; then the poor Goldens in the 80s and 90s; now its the Labs being bred into the ground..... Takes a breed 40-50 years to recover after their popularity ends
RE: They are $1000!
Sorry but that is just about what ANY medium-largish dog who was carefuly bred for health, temperment and physical soundness costs. A careful breeder does all the health testing on the dogs - hips, elbows, patella, cardiac, thyroid and more. Figure it is $500-1000 per dog depending upon what tests are needed by what breed.
In most breeds that size, pet quality puppies range from $750-1000; and show prospect puppies from $1000 -2000.
They were not "just recognized." The National Breed Club was founded in 1984. At that time,they could compete in AKC conformation under the FSS rules - Foundation Stock. https://www.akc.org/reg/fss_details.cfm
(Forget trying to do that with crossbreed mixes - you have to have a pedigree for the dog and it has to have been produced by dogs of the same breed. Further the dog can not be the product of crossing two AKC recognized breeds.)
In 2001, they moved to the Miscellaneous Group and in 2003 moved to the Sporting Group, and the National Club was given full "parent club" status in 2005.
As a breed, they have been in the US for over 22 years. (Goldens are only about 120 years old as a breed.)
They are cuties - a lot like the Boykin Spaniel (a distinct breed with a breed club that is very ambivalent about AKC recognition because they don't want theire breed destroyed by "popularity.)
2006-11-04 13:40:04 · answer #2 · answered by ann a 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
They are a great breed, but please don't wish popularity on them so the get 'cheaper' - that calls the backyard breeders out to breed genetic junk & that wonderful personality would be destroyed.
A way to get one 'cheaper' would be get one through the breed's rescue group.
p.s. Good breeders hate when their breed gets in the top 25 rankings, as that is when backyard breeders & puppy mills try to make a quick buck by breeding junk - so then people abandon the breed & it drops (Rottweilers & Shar Peis are 2 examples that had a meteoric rise & fall). A good breeder told me it then takes about 20 years for the good breeders to repair the damage done to the breed by disreputable breeders. How sad for the dogs.
2006-11-04 09:49:12 · answer #3 · answered by mustanglynnie 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
A friend of mine breeds them, they are a very nice breed. Smart and a good working dog.
I agree with the others, popularity is often the ruin of a good breed. I shudder to think of my breed ever becoming popular!
Gitemgang - Come on!!! How can you not like the SPORTING breeds!!! I wouldn't want to own one, but I love to watch them in the ring, and I sure wouldn't mind handling a few!
2006-11-04 13:30:00 · answer #4 · answered by whpptwmn 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
The NSDTR is a natural for people that are competitive with their dog,,,,, BUT,,,,, those that want a dog that lays in front of the fireplace and never does anything are in for a huge awakening with one. The first step in finding out if a "Toller" is the right dog for you is to find out the meaning of the word "toller". Tell you this tho,,, when you see a good Toller at work you will be absolutely amazed.
2006-11-04 09:55:43 · answer #5 · answered by tom l 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I know someone that breeds and shows them, and they are $1000-1,200 for a puppy. They are very good for agility and obedience and smaller and less coat care than a Golden. And you are very correct!!! They are ONLY good for an active family!! I had two here for a week and was SOOOOOOOOOO glad to see them leave!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have Newfies and a "Little River Duck Dog" as they called first, ALMOST KILLED ME!!!!
WAY too much energy for me!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are very cute though!!!!
2006-11-04 09:47:02 · answer #6 · answered by ARE YOUR NEWFS GELLIN'? 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
LMAO!!!
*NOT* interested in ANY of the sporting group! NOT "my cuppa tea"!!!
Please....THINK!!!
"Popularity" is a HORRIBLE fate for ANY breed!!! Look at all the CRAP chi's & yorks,etc!! Cuz they're currently the fad/POPULAR thing & IGNORANT fools are buying & making TONS of the most gawd-awful POS imaginable! NEVER wish "popularity" on a breed!
2006-11-04 09:53:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋