Big question fo rchristians: Why are protestants and esp. orthodox against ecumenism ?

Question

Is ecum,enism that bad, shouldnt be a begginig for uniting all the christian denomination ? Isn't this Christ will ? For us all to be united ? Please enlight me !

Answer 1

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I supports ecumenism. Many Patriarchs before him also supported ecumenism.

Remember there are 42,000 Christian denominations and 41,999 of them disagree with the Eastern Orthodox, including the Roman Catholic. Many fear that this "unity" will usher in the anti-christ or be initiated by the anti-christ. The World Council of Churches is considered a Communist organization:
http://www.oikoumene.org/en/home.html

There are many websites against ecumenism. They are listed here:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns-index/ecumfbns.htm

Answer 2

i m no longer likely fascinated in all that because of the fact that i m an agnostic, yet I relatively have been raised in an orthodox u . s . and that i can tell u what i comprehend. initially i dont have self belief the dogmatic differences have been ever so significant incredibly, it replaced right into a political difficulty initially..in spite of the undeniable fact that it is going to likely be no longer hassle-free to circulate 1000 lower back and alter them nonetheless, after this style of long stubbornity. the final difficulty was the mentality and shape differences. roman catholics have been very centralised, giving the pope severe potential, frequently oppressing, basically preaching in latin bla bla, mutually as interior the previous circumstances the two protestants and orthodoxes have been milder, protestants extra liberal, orthodoxes extra humancentric. working example basically catholic monks do no longer marry etc... Orthodoxes have been consistently somewhat introversive on the different hand. (i m uncertain thats the main remarkable be conscious). thats for the menatlity differences. yet they substantial difficulty replaced into and nonetheless is that all and sundry (i mean the persons who run the churches) is very comfortable of their own establishments, battling for potential and money and that they wouldnt % to share it with every person else. so as that they effect people against it. thats basic. i dont think of very fantastically of any church, sorry. to boot, catholicism and orthodoxie (unlike protestantism) are the two a technique or the different components of specific cultures and way of life identities , in europe a minimum of, thats what might make it complicated for people to different than this sort of exchange. catholics at the instant are not for ecumenism anymore then the others 2.

Answer 3

The vast majority of official statments of faith state that Jesus is merely the son of a greater father (much like you would see a father and son in the natural world).

This doctrine is a grave error.

It is no wonder true Christians who believe that Jesus Chris is the Lord of all heaven and the earth do not agree to this diminishment of the Lord.

THE GOD OF HEAVEN IS THE LORD

First of all it must be known who the God of heaven is, since upon that all the other things depend. Throughout all heaven no other than the Lord alone is
acknowledged as the God of heaven. There it is said, as He Himself taught,

That He is one with the Father; that the Father is in Him, and He in the Father; that he who sees Him sees the Father; and that everything that is holy goes forth from Him (John 10:30, 35; 14:9-11; 16:13-15).

I have often talked with angels on this subject, and they have invariably declared that in heaven they are unable to divide the Divine into three, because they know and perceive that the Divine is One and this One
is in the Lord. They also said that those of the church who come from this world having an idea of three Divine beings cannot be admitted into heaven,
since their thought wanders from one Divine being to another; and it is not allowable there to think three and say one.{1} Because in heaven everyone speaks from his thought, since speech there is the immediate product of the thought, or the thought speaking. Consequently, those in this world who have divided the Divine into three, and have adopted a different idea of each, and have not made that idea one and centered it in the Lord, cannot be received into heaven, because in heaven there is a sharing of all thoughts, and therefore if any one came thinking three and saying one, he would be at once found out and rejected. But let it be known that all those who have not separated what is true from what is good, or faith from love, accept in the other life, when they have been taught, the heavenly idea of the Lord, that He is the God of the universe. It is otherwise with those who have separated faith from life, that is, who have not lived according to the precepts of true faith (Heaven and Hell n.2).

Answer 4

...Jesus never commanded us to deny Him just to have one big, happy church of apostates
...If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything. Ecumenism scraps Bible principles and the authority of Scripture, in order to have "one, big happy family" and a "warm pack" of folks who like peace but pitch the truth, thinking they will get unity.
...One of more recent and pathetic examples of this is when the Episcopal leadership decided it was okay to ordain homosexuals as priests. Since Scripture forbids this lifestyle, it caused a great uproar among Episcopalians. Now hear what the leadership finally said, after they approved of it for their church. They said that "heresy was better than schism." There they go, standing for nothing, pitching the truth of the Bible, taking a spineless coward's way out, not rocking the boat, and so they can have a warm pack - they chose to embrace heresy, and they know it's heresy - it is pathetic and shameful.
...Not me brother! I'll take Scripture every time...I will choose schism if I must...I will not sacrifice nor compromise the truth.
...It reminds me of Luke 6:46, where Jesus says, "And why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord', and do not do what I say?" The priority in the true believer's life is to do what Jesus says.

Answer 5

God calls us (those who believe in Jesus) to be united. But only united in truth. I am already am united with anyone who believes Jesus came from heaven, born a virgin, lived a sinless life, crucified, buried, raised from the dead, ascended to heaven. I am already united with others who are "in Christ".

The problem is many of the denomination today are more interested in "unity" and "tolerance" than the truth of God's Word. They are more interested in religion than a relationship with God through Christ. They are more interested in "spirituality" than living by the true Spirit of God.

Ecumenicalism says "can't be just all get along". True Christianity says there is only true unitiy in the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Answer 6

I'm not against it. I think denomination is stupid. However, it's intrinsic to human nature (or human fear rather) to seperate and become isolated from others. Ppl are afraid of union, and I'm still unsure why.

Answer 7

because its too hard to spell and remember what it means!