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2006-11-03 23:32:53 · 18 answers · asked by Carlito 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

hi gazawoman - what about antichrist as the 12th imam ? are you sunni or shia ?

2006-11-03 23:46:52 · update #1

gazawoman - as you know the Bible, what about 1 John 2:22,23 ? regards.

2006-11-03 23:49:41 · update #2

kaz1 - when Paul wrote that letter in approx. AD 51 - 52, the Jewish temple was still standing. Which temple do you think he had in mind ? The temple needs to be built again before this scripture can be fulfilled.
If "the man" represents the clergy as JW's teach, then why does the clergy (at least in principle) still advocate the worship of God rather then itself ? "The man" is an actual person still to come (Rev. 13), you are in error.

2006-11-03 23:55:53 · update #3

NSL - And you are just as guilty before God as the numerous false teachers & preachers down the centuries, because you and your organisation have substituted the grace of God for a lie. A convoluted, pernicious plan of works salvation that causes you to deny the necessity of the new - birth and to reject the participation in the symbols of the Lord's body & blood, as He commanded. Your sweeping generalisation concerning "Christendom" clearly reveals that you are speaking not from experience of such matters, but according to what you have been programmed to think. While criticising the clergy, your organisation has itself established an unbiblical divide in the form of the 144,000 doctrine and the unquestioned "authority" of the governing body. It's just as evil (arguably more so) as anything in Roman Catholicism or Anglicanism and I am not a supporter of either.
Regarding the interpretation of "the man of lawlessness" - wait and see for yourself. Time will tell.

2006-11-07 05:36:40 · update #4

Furthermore, in regard to the "divided state" of the PROFESSING church. There was a similar situation with the church in Corinth. Paul also had a sharp disagreement with Barnabas over John Mark. Were these people any less believers ? I have Christian brothers and sisters across the denominational divide and we can fellowship with one another because we agree on the fundamentals. I am highly suspicious of any religious group that appears to be totally unified, with no disagreement on secondary doctrinal issues. Also, what about the Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood splinter group ?

2006-11-07 05:44:33 · update #5

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The Antichrist -- the beast -- the false prophet -- the son of perdition -- the abomination of desolation. The one who comes just prior to the Lord's return. Read the following verse in Daniel concerning him, too:

Daniel 8:23, 25 - "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace he shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Jesus); but he shall be broken without hand."

2006-11-03 23:33:57 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

He is a figurative man who first appeared in the first century within the body of the Christian congregation and continued through to today as the clergy of nominal Christianity. The reason why he is lawless is because Individual religious leaders have felt the need (selfish or otherwise) to contend with other leaders over various religious issues. this is why there seems to be so many different "Christian" churches. However, despite their claim to be different, they are not. their differences are only outward, seen in their ceremonies, rites, etc. Inside, their teachings are essentially the same - immortality of the human soul, Trinitarian godhead, hellfire, clergy/laity divide, and many others - all false or based on falsehoods.

2006-11-06 10:41:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Paul couldn't have been speaking about a single individual because if you notice he states that this “man” was evident in Paul’s day and would continue in existence until Jehovah destroyed him at this system’s end. So, he has existed for many centuries. Obviously, no literal man has lived that long. So the expression “man of lawlessness” must stand for a body, or class, of people.

They are in fact the body of proud, ambitious clergymen of Christendom, who over the centuries have set themselves up as a law unto themselves. This can be seen by the fact that there are thousands of different religions and sects in Christendom, each with its clergy, yet each conflicting with the others in some aspect of doctrine or practice. This divided state is a clear evidence that they do not follow God’s law. They cannot be from God. (Compare Micah 2:12; Mark 3:24; Romans 16:17; 1 Corinthians 1:10.)
What all these religions have in common is that they do not hold fast to the Bible’s teachings, having violated the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written.”—1 Corinthians 4:6; see also Matthew 15:3, 9, 14.

Thus, this lawless one is a composite person: the religious clergy of Christendom.
All of them, whether popes, priests, patriarchs, or Protestant preachers, share responsibility for the religious sins of Christendom. They have exchanged the truths of God for pagan lies, teaching such unscriptural doctrines as immortality of the human soul, hellfire, purgatory, and Trinity. They are like the religious leaders to whom Jesus said: “You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. . . . He is a liar and the father of the lie.” (John 8:44) Their practices also expose them as lawless, for they participate in activities that violate God’s laws. To such ones Jesus says: “Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.”—Matthew 7:21-23.

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Yes Carl.....time WILL tell

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2006-11-05 05:07:31 · answer #3 · answered by New ♥ System ♥ Lady 4 · 2 1

This "man of lawlessness" lifts himself over everyone and publicly shows himself to be a god. He is an apostate of the true God in opposition to him. In order to be an apostate, he must be teaching things contrary to what the bible says, claiming to be representing the real God, Jehovah (psalms 83:18). Therefore he can only be the world empire of false religion, predominantly christendom.

The temple that he sits in is supposed to be representing God, therefore it is not a literal brick building, rather a symbol of representation of God.

The clergy do say that they encourage people to worship god, but correct me if I am wrong...
Do they not walk around as the hypocrites did in bible times, walking around in their robes and expensive garb? People kissing their rings etc?( matthew 6:5)
The pope, who is "infallible and a prophet", is this not setting himself up as a god?
Matthew 7:20-23 tells us that you will recognise these men by their fruits. Do not be misled by their powerful works.
Fruits that I assume that Jesus would not want to be associated with would include wars, immorality and pedophilia, to name but a few.
Jesus also points us to the right fruitage in matthew 24:14, where he tells us that " this good news of the kingdom will be preached to the whole inhabited earth and then the end will come". We are the only people on the planet that are fulfilling this prophecy worldwide. We are now right at the end of this system of things, it is now time to examine the fruitage of your religion.

2006-11-03 23:47:20 · answer #4 · answered by kaz1 3 · 0 0

The Antichrist

2006-11-03 23:37:03 · answer #5 · answered by movedby 5 · 3 0

The man of lawlessness is the antiChrist. The 12th imam is who I believe is the antiChrist, personally. They are extremely similar in description.

2006-11-04 10:57:42 · answer #6 · answered by . 7 · 0 0

Human self assertiveness against God in the temple of God itself.

2006-11-03 23:41:50 · answer #7 · answered by Lives7 6 · 0 0

that must be the "Anti-Christ." he will come claiming to be Christ and greater than a number of will have faith because of the remarkable signs and indicators and wonders he will carry out. he will dedicate the "abomination of desolation" claiming to be God and commanding to be worshipped as he sitts interior the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

2016-10-15 09:02:18 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

This was a letter from Paul to a particular group of Christians and written nearly 2000 years ago. Although we can learn from it, whoever he was slagging off died a long time ago and we shouldn't take it personally.

2006-11-03 23:39:49 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

In the islam he will be the Mahdi he will twist the truth and tacke you away from Isa(pbuh) he is aginst the truth and will trick people my people will follow him to the fire.

yes 1john i see
22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

In islam they do not have life because they do not have Isa(pbuh)
I have life because I have Isa(pbuh) even though they will kill me
because a murderer has no life in him, also from the bible

there is a great terrible time coming i am not afraid to die if god wills

2006-11-03 23:36:14 · answer #10 · answered by gazawoman 1 · 2 3

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