Under the Christian doctrine of "once saved always saved", could I start an unprovoked war and still pass?

Answer 1

I think once mass murder is caused I think the person will automatically become unsaved.

Answer 2

No, because by definition if you start and unprovoked war you are not following Christian doctrine.

However, if after the war you professed your sins and accepted the bible, you get a free pass to heaven regardless of what you did. You might even see Hitler, if right before he bit down on the cyanide he "found" Jesus Christ.

Answer 3

Ok why would you want to start an unprovoked war? John 3:16 is a beautiful verse, all we must do is beleive in Christ and worship him. Go in Christ

Answer 4

"once saved always saved" is a doctrine of only a few denominations of churches and is not supported by Scripture. It is not a Christian doctrine as stated in your commentary.

Answer 5

There is probably some disagreement on this doctrine even in the Christian churches...I am Baptist by denomination, by the way, and I do not think that you would get an argument from them about it....

I think that they base their tenet on John 3:16....but there are important scriptures both before and after that verse that seem pertinent to me:

John 3: 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,

15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

I think of particular interest are verses 20 and 21....what they say to me, is if I practice unrepentant evil...evil that I do not expose to the light, all deals are off!....because I am proving that I love darkness more than I love light...not by my words, but by my deeds....and I am not lifting up Christ.

So, I bellieve, for myself, that I am once saved and always saved only as I stay in the light...because He is in the light....I can't just do unrepentant evil and expect to dwell with Christ forever....He is a Holy and a Just God ...if I do evil and repent, that is one thing...because He will forgive...but I cannot go out and do whatever I want to and then claim I am Christian and expect automatic admittance into God's Kingdom because I have at one time been saved.

If I practice unrepentant evil, I was either not really saved in the first place, or I have turned completely away from God...In which case, He will turn completely away from me.

And I cannot just do the crocodile tears type of repentance either:
That is what the Bible describes as the sorrow of the world...a false type of sorrow just for show....godly sorrow is a real grief that is sincere and causes God to once again admit us into His presence and cover us with His grace:

2 Cor.7: 9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing.

10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.

There is one more scripture that I think is also important to this conversation, and that is:

Heb. 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,

5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

If I fall away and put Christ to shame by my actions after I have repented and received the Holy Spirit, I cannot be reconciled to God even if I repent, because I have crucified Christ again....which is impossible....but I bring shame to the Kingdom of God and to God's Holiness....and that appears to not be reconcilable..

This seems, to me, to be what Judas did when he betrayed Christ and apparently only had a repentance about it according to the sorrow of the world ....and that was probably why he commited suicide.

Peter, on the other hand, betrayed Christ also, but apparently sincerely repented and was reconciled back to the Father and was used mightily of God after the resurrection of Jesus.

If Judas would have been sincere in his repentance, perhaps he too, might have still been able to be used after the Holy Spirit came down in the Book of Acts....only God can know that.

Answer 6

It depends. If you blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, then no.

But you would have to know God--God's law and God's grace and God's mercy--to understand any answer to this question anyway.

Answer 7

Hell yeh,pass me that ammo Billy Bob.