If you're "saved" then murder someone and die without final repentance were you actually saved?

Question

Because your theological view goes once saved always saved em I right..?

That was a direct question to the protestants that believe in that doctorine.

Answer 1

I don't believe this but i have friends that are into it...

If some1 is indeed "saved" or whatever, they are saved from lifestyle patterns of killing and destrictive behavior and they choose be moral persons with integrity. Thus, they often would not go out and kill some1. Often it is concluded that if you go do bad stuff and do not feel and remorse over it and you desire to go to hell, you weren't saved in the first place. being saved is a complete body mind soul experience where you analyze your history and future and become pure. PUre ppl just dont kill ppl.

again i dont believe in this whole "saved" concept. it is quite ignorant and primitive and just makes those "saved" ppl feel special or something, when they really are just as human as the rest of us.

Answer 2

An imperfect Christian who has made a honest attempt to comply with and obey the ordinances and commandments of the Gospel could be in well status. If lifestyles had been a line graph it will have to no longer be a flat line or a regular line growing. Our line goes to broaden whilst zig-zagging as we now have our usaand downs in lifestyles as we wrestle to upgrade. I do not consider simply by asking Jesus to be a private savior qualifies you for whatever. Christ mentioned, Ask, Seek, and Knock. He did not simply say ask. Accepting Christ does no longer most effective indicate you feel that he existed and does exist and that he died in your sins, it additionally signifies that you desire to come to be like him and you're making an attempt to recognize and comply with his teachings. I do not understand how you'll be given his Atonement if you do not recognize what it way. He suffered and paid the fee to meet the needs of justice seeing that justice calls for that all of us have to pay the fee of our sins. How many individuals fairly recognize that? And recognize what that cost was once and is? There is alot of speak approximately grace and mercy, and up till a couple of hundred years in the past it was once precisely the reverse, all hell and damnation required via justice. The fact is that each are similarly essential, justice and mercy.

Answer 3

Yes, you're still saved. It's only a more severe degree of the same thing as telling a lie or beating your wife and dying without repenting. I don't thnk many Christians would murder and not repent but I can see that as a possibility in cases of vigilante justice. If a man molests your child and you kill him, I don't think that God would revoke your salvation. On the other hand, if a Christian were to become a contract killer, you'd have to seriously question his commitment to Christ and I think God would look closely into his heart and see him for what he is.

Personally, I am no longer Christian but I do still remember how I thought about issues like this.

Answer 4

King David committed Murder.
He also killed Thousands in Battle, but he only committed Murder Once.
He is in Heaven.
After he committed murder, GOD forgave him, but his life was Hell after that on the Earth, till he went Home to Heaven.
You Reap what you have Sown.

Once you Spirit has been Recreated (Saved) it is Very Hard to get it Messed Up Again (unpardonable Sin).
Suicide is not the Unpardonable Sin.
Suicide is murdering yourself, and if you do it in a way that is Instantanious, you will Still go to Heaven.
I would Never Suggest Suicide.
Jesus is the Answer to every Sin.
Jesus will Forgive you too!
The Unpardonable Sin is the Only Sin you can Commit AFTER you are Saved that will Mess-Up your Spirit AGAIN and Damn you to Hell again.
All other Sins are Forgiven.

The Unpardonable Sin is REJECTING JESUS AGAIN for Good, After you have GONE up HIGH in the Spiritual Realm and Walk Away from Jesus, Not wanting Jesus anymore AFTER you have Known HIM in GREAT HEIGHTs of the Spirit.
Very few Christians commit this Sin, and Baby Christians cannot even commit it.

Answer 5

The doctrine of "once saved, always saved" is nothing but a total FALSEHOOD and lie that was coined by a particular group of so-called 'Christians' only to lure people into joining their particular church denomination. Many have already fallen for it and many others continue to do so.

The example you pose makes it quite obvious yet those who have been misled to believe in that FALSE DOCTRINE will still defend it rather than question its veracity or the church that they belong to. Go figure.

Peace be with you!

Answer 6

Once saved, always saved is a lie from Satan! If you get saved, repent and live a Christian life, then go back to your old ways, and make sin a way of life, you will burn in the lake of fire. If you are not living for God and serving God when you die, you lose! Period. Mc Guyver 7 is wrong. You do not go to heaven if you commit suicide! People who are serving God at the time of their death DO NOT commit suicide! Whoever taught him that doctrine LIED to him!

Answer 7

The question is was it necessary to be saved in the first place. Saved from what?

There is nothing to be saved from.

Sorry, we don't get out of here till the last amoeba attains enlightenment.

Judging from the answers some of the so-called chosen people are giving this could take quite a while.

Contrary to popular belief God is not going to let us quit till everyone figures out the way to get back home.

The fantasy about hell is just a lie about God that was made up to give a few holier than thows someone to feel better than. God loves us too much to let a single soul become lost.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 8

I write to you, dear children, because your sins HAVE BEEN forgiven on account of his name. (1Jo 2:12)

Once you'er forgiven, you're forgiven. When you believe in Christ, you are forgiven, made righteous, given a new life, made a new creation, sealed with the Holy Spirit, reconcilled with God, adopted as His Son, and given eternal life. WOW!

Then God says, "nothing in all creation can separate you from the love of God in Christ Jesus" (Rom 8:39) and that He has sealed you with the Holy Spirit as a deposit gaurenteeing what is to come (Eph 1:14).

You don't get to heaven by what you do or don't do. You get to heaven by what you believe. "It is by faith you were saved" (Eph 2:8).

The question you ask is fundamental to understanding true Christianity. Great question!

Answer 9

depends if you mean actually saved or you just think you are saved

if you are actually saved, God will discipline you and bring you to repentance.... and those who are really saved will persevere
"those who persevere to the end will be saved"

I think perseverance of the saints is evidence of salvation, giving up and falling away is evidence posisbly of not beign saved.... if the patient got no appetite for long enough you conclude he is really sick.. posisbly dead?

Answer 10

Once saved always saved is correct...however, if you do not do true sincere repentance you could be in very serious trouble in the afterlife.