comments on this quote?

Question

"the world has set its store by leaders , and has magnified them out of their true importance , and in doing so it has created difficulties of theology , difficulties with scientists , with philosophers and with all those honest people who want their minds to be free and who cannot accept anything which makes their reason revolt "

i would like to hear from religious and non religious please
your views and comments ?

i feel when it speaks of leaders , it also means religious leaders as well as political

actually Delphic this was written many years ago
it was from a spirit guide names Silver Birch

it was from a spiritual book yes spiritoftheradio

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Answer 1

There's a lot of truth in that, pangel. There are conflicting views and beliefs regarding just about everything, but at some point, ideology and worship of some leader or another takes over and drowns out all reason. Most of the time, that ideology is religion.

Answer 2

I think 'the world' is too general in this day and age. We are brought up to think there are at least 3 worlds, 4 or more in reality on this planet, and I just don't understand the opening premise of 'the world has set its store by leaders,' - in what context? Set its store in as much as not trusting them, following them blindly, ignoring them - I think that needs to be qualified. Magnifying them out of their true importance means nothing without qualifying the first premise. The rest of the statement goes from the extremes of theology to science, usually (but of course not always) in complete opposition, from philosophers to honest people - and this really needs to be further explained - honest people as opposed to 'leaders' - this implies you do not think leaders are honest, but what kind of leaders were you talking about? In the last part, you seem to be saying leaders work against those that want their minds to be free and cannot work against things that make their minds think otherwise which I just don't understand at all. I am a committed atheist by the way and have never followed any religion and have always rallied against organised religion. I don't see anything religious about your statement other than you mention 'theology' but you also mention lots of other things. Is this some kind of religious statement?

Answer 3

I suppose we have always been either leaders or led . Tribal chiefs , kings , Prophets , politicians, scientists etc . How do you gauge their importance ? the survival of the tribe or country or ideas that improve our social , spiritual or economic state perhaps.
If a great military leader saved his country , a Nelson for instance, then I think he or she should be lauded for their actions. Similarly , a scientist who discovers a cure for an incurable illness is rightly recognised . Every generation while benefiting from the past has to make anew the world for themselves , turning over mores and cherished beliefs they must reexamine every thing for themselves. This continuing revolution in the light of todays experience is the safeguard against magnifying anyone too much .

Answer 4

Let's keep this simple. My view is that the last phrase (that 'honest people...want their minds to be free and... cannot accept anything which makes their reason revolt') is the crux of the matter. It's a contradiction in terms.

It's only DIShonest people who want 'free' minds and who revolt at what offends their own reason. They thereby set Reason up as god - but not any kind of reason; it is their OWN reason they worship. Do that, and your mind is no longer free. It has become a slave to its own idol. It is blinded to any reason that would contradict worship of self. Such a person is no better than public leaders who are magnified out of all proportion. The only difference is that this 'honest person' requires but his or her own adulation in order to dismiss the worth of all others, should they so choose.

None of us are honest. We all deceive ourselves. The Bible says, "The heart is deceitful above all, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?" Only God can read our hearts. And our hearts are corrupt. Only God can give us a new heart that beats for him. But this Only God abhors idolatry, whether that be the idolising of over-inflated leaders, or of our own selves. This is the Christian view (and Muslims and Jewish believers may also subscribe to this but I speak as a Christian.)

Answer 5

George Lakoff distinguishes between two leadership models, the "strong father" who protects his children against an evil world, and the "nurturing parent" who tries to help people succeed in a world of possibilities. Right now, "strong father" types are surrendering their decision-making rights to demagogues who are more interested in perpetuating their power than actually making any progress toward improving the human condition. Fortunately, history has a way of correcting such imbalances. I just hope it's not too late.

Answer 6

That sounds close , but those who see this though it may be revolting are also capable of seeing the ground beneath their feet.
It is chaotic when the dust is stirred.

Answer 7

This is happening in Britain too? Sounds like you are describing America!

The backlash is going to be painful to the guilty and innocent alike.

Answer 8

Trues are always changed. Whatever right and correctly things after certain years, it will be ruined and there will be another new right and correctly. Whatever the outside changed, you see inside that there is unchanged.

Answer 9

We often make the mistake of idolizing our leaders, celebrities, and heroes, forgetting that they are just humans and capable of having faults and making bad decisions.

Answer 10

interesting, we have or at least should see, the result of mankind worshipping each other, seems we just can`t fail to follow that juicy carrot.