Why do people have such hate for certain types of dogs? Mixed breeds, mutts, etc.?

Question

Recently I bought a puggle. I didn't pay thousands of dollars for it. I paid a couple hundred bucks and got one from a very reputable breeder who is "not out to make a quick buck" but just someone who knows they are a mixed breed that has very desireable traits for a house pet.

The dog is working out beautifully. She is playful, energetic, but also enjoys quiet time and being a lap dog. We couldn't have asked for a better dog. Other puggle owners have reported similar experiences.

But all over the internet and here I see people with passionate hatred of puggles and other mutts or mixed breeds. Why? This hatred reminds me of racial hatred. Pretty much the same thing. These people hate the breed simply because of their genetic makeup and not the content of their character or behavior.

I'm just wondering what everyone else has to say about this topic.

Anyone notice the amount of peoplel that answer these types of questions just to say, "THEY ARE NOT A BREED."

I went out of my way to not mention anywhere in my question that I was under the impression that puggles were a breed, but idiots see that word puggle and they don't even read the question. They think they are so damn smart to point out "THEY ARE NOT A BREED" that they don't stop to read that I never mentioned that they were.

Anyway, I understand the value of adopting. Adoption fees cost 150-250 in any shelter around here. I paid $200 for my puggle. And since she is a puppy that came with a health guarantee and vaccination records, I can know that there are no health or behavioral problems that I need to worry about. If there are health problems, I will be reimbursed, and if the dog develops behavior problems, it will be my fault.

Anyone notice the amount of peoplel that answer these types of questions just to say, "THEY ARE NOT A BREED."

I went out of my way to not mention anywhere in my question that I was under the impression that puggles were a breed, but idiots see that word puggle and they don't even read the question. They think they are so damn smart to point out "THEY ARE NOT A BREED" that they don't stop to read that I never mentioned that they were.

Anyway, I understand the value of adopting. Adoption fees cost 150-250 in any shelter around here. I paid $200 for my puggle. And since she is a puppy that came with a health guarantee and vaccination records, I can know that there are no health or behavioral problems that I need to worry about. If there are health problems, I will be reimbursed, and if the dog develops behavior problems, it will be my fault.

Anyone notice the amount of peoplel that answer these types of questions just to say, "THEY ARE NOT A BREED."

I went out of my way to not mention anywhere in my question that I was under the impression that puggles were a breed, but idiots see that word puggle and they don't even read the question. They think they are so damn smart to point out "THEY ARE NOT A BREED" that they don't stop to read that I never mentioned that they were.

Anyway, I understand the value of adopting. Adoption fees cost 150-250 in any shelter around here. I paid $200 for my puggle. And since she is a puppy that came with a health guarantee and vaccination records, I can know that there are no health or behavioral problems that I need to worry about. If there are health problems, I will be reimbursed, and if the dog develops behavior problems, it will be my fault.

Anyone notice the amount of peoplel that answer these types of questions just to say, "THEY ARE NOT A BREED."

I went out of my way to not mention anywhere in my question that I was under the impression that puggles were a breed, but idiots see that word puggle and they don't even read the question. They think they are so damn smart to point out "THEY ARE NOT A BREED" that they don't stop to read that I never mentioned that they were.

Anyway, I understand the value of adopting. Adoption fees cost 150-250 in any shelter around here. I paid $200 for my puggle. And since she is a puppy that came with a health guarantee and vaccination records, I can know that there are no health or behavioral problems that I need to worry about. If there are health problems, I will be reimbursed, and if the dog develops behavior problems, it will be my fault.

Anyone notice the amount of peoplel that answer these types of questions just to say, "THEY ARE NOT A BREED."

I went out of my way to not mention anywhere in my question that I was under the impression that puggles were a breed, but idiots see that word puggle and they don't even read the question. They think they are so damn smart to point out "THEY ARE NOT A BREED" that they don't stop to read that I never mentioned that they were.

Anyway, I understand the value of adopting. Adoption fees cost 150-250 in any shelter around here. I paid $200 for my puggle. And since she is a puppy that came with a health guarantee and vaccination records, I can know that there are no health or behavioral problems that I need to worry about. If there are health problems, I will be reimbursed, and if the dog develops behavior problems, it will be my fault.

Answer 1

People are just plain ignorant! Dogs are dogs, whether they are pure bred or mixed. Mixes can be trained to do the same things as pures, if not a little extra that a pure cant. I have a large Rott/lab who can catch frisbees... how many pure rotts do you see jumping in the air to catch a frisbee? I have a Pomeranian that loves to swim... she is a pure but not many of them like to swim! (I believe it is because the rott/lab taught her to love it) and I have a Maltese mix that.... well he doesnt do much, he's kinda old and lazy, as his right,... but he's survived getting ran over four times now, and he's my son's best friend.
Who cares about the arrogant people that refuse to acknowledge the brillance of a mixed breed! A dog is a dog, no matter who daddy is... whether he be a blood line champ or the naughty neighbor dog! Why pay $1000.00 for a dog, when you can adopt one from the pound for under a $100, (around here anyway).
I say it comes down to showing off. Flaunting money on dogs, prancing them in a circle to celebrate your dog's outer perfection.... But what kind of life do these dogs lead outside the judgement ring? BORING! Sit in a kennel and get groomed constantly... what a dog's life... NOT
While I do favor a few pure breeds, I love mutts also... you can not gaurentee their looks once they are grown, you can not gaurentee their abilities until they are older, you have no clue of what breed will reflect their personality.... it's more like raising a child and it adds spice to being your dog's pet!

Answer 2

You said "These people hate the breed simply because of their genetic makeup and not the content of their character or behavior"

And then you said "I went out of my way to not mention anywhere in my question that I was under the impression that puggles were a breed"

So, which is it? LOL!

NO reputable breeder breeds mutts and you are encouraging more breeding when you buy one. In case you are somehow unaware of this fact, the shelters are full of mutts already without more being bred on purpose. Mutt breeders do NO health testing and use crappy stock because NO GOOD BREEDER WILL SELL STOCK to be used in such an irresponsible way.

So you end up with a puppy whose parents have crappy breeding and no health testing. DUH!


Julie said - " Mixes can be trained to do the same things as pures, if not a little extra that a pure cant."

LOL! Yea, I can just see myself trying to lure course with a Rottie cross, or my friend trying to hunt upland birds with a Bichon cross.

Show dogs are only show dogs on weekends, and they LOVE it! The rest of the time they are snoozing on the couch like everyone elses dogs!

Answer 3

We don't have a 'passionate hatred' of puggles - we have a 'passionate hatred' of the type of people that purposely bring more mutts into the world when thousands are being put to sleep in shelters - what is so hard to understand about that?

If you want a mutt, go to the shelter - that is terrific! If you want a purebred, buy from a reputable breeder or adopt through a rescue - wonderful! But everytime a 'designer dog' is bought, it denies a home to a mutt already on this earth through no fault of its own. It also supports a 'breeder' who, no matter how 'nice' they seem, are only interested in money & most likely have been kicked out of the AKC or other registry for bad breeding practices -such as falsifying registrations, too many complaints from buyers of unhealthy or suspected not purebred as claimed pups,etc. What a deal for them: not having to deal with a registry's rules, they take any 2 poor-quality purebred dogs (since reputable breeders sell pet quality pups with spay/neuter contracts) & put them together - and it is pure profit for them. What a great scam! P.T. Barnum would be so proud.

People who truly love & care about dogs (purebreds & shelter mutts) are disgusted.

Answer 4

It still is NOT a breed. There are NO reputable breeders of Puggles. They are ALL out to make money....they are not doing it for the love of the "breed" because it isn't one!!!!!!! They use poor quality pets to make up their "breed".
I could care less if you spend hundreds for a MUTT, but do not presume that it is a "breed", or that the breeder was good. They do not clear the health of the breeding stock, and no matter HOW you explain it, they do not use good examples of EITHER breed to make it. Why do you think someone would choose to breed there mutts?????? It is the money!!!!!!!! Beagles are a dime a dozen, and Pugs can be hard to come by sometimes. Beagles have behavior problems and Pugs have health problems. People actually think that by making the mix, all these problems just go away!!!!!!!! The old"mutts are healthier than purebreeds"!!!! That is a total joke but too many designer mutt owners still think it is true!!!!!!!!!!

Yes you DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I quote..."These people hate the BREED simply because of their genetic makeup and not the content of their character or behavior." YOU referred to them as a BREED, so you are still thinking that they are a BREED.

And what a SAD case YOU are to equate the dislike of overpriced designer mutts with RACIAL HATRED!!!!!!!!!!! That is pretty low.

Answer 5

I don't hate mixed breeds.. I just hate the fact that people are selling them for alot of money and giving them cutesy names and usually adding the words "rare" or "designer" to them as a money making gimmick. Especially when you can find the same dogs in a shelter who are waiting for a new home before they have to be put down.
And I'm sorry..but the words mixed breed and reputable breeder do not go together.

I have a mixed breed dog..I love her to death. But...I adopted her from a shelter. I did not pay some back yard/hobby breeder hundreds of dollars for what is basically a mutt.

Answer 6

I think the big upset on this is that people are not only paying top dollar for a "designer dog" aka mixed breed instead of rescuing, but also that many of these breeders are doing this for the $$ only.

Were the parents of your dog health screened prior to breeding? Did you get a guarantee? Sign a contract? All this is part of breeding, and part of the reason for cost. Showing, vetting, screenings... all cost big time, and breeders that are doing it Right aren't making money, they are covering costs.. some are even loosing $$.

Many of these "Designer" breeders are even creating there own kennel club and registries... so that they can sell the dog as "registered" LOL, just one more way to make a buck.

Answer 7

I don't think are people that actually hate the breed mix, but only the philosophy behind most of the breeding..I had a Chug, (Pug/ Chihuahua) who was the best little dog ever! An accident at my mom in law's kennel..I wouldn't have traded him for any purebred dog..

However, when a mix breed becomes a fad, such as many of the designer breeds right now..Money hungry breeders will take the advantage of having no breed standard to have to follow..They will buy any pug, and any beagle, and produce the designer puppy for the waiting buyers..Chances are very good that either parent or more likely both parents, were the inferior of their own breed, as the breeding of purebreds requires the breeder to meet certain breed standards to pass off his dogs as purebreds..
for instance.. My spouse's aunt ran a small puppy mill.. She had a Pomeranian of very questionable heritage..looked much closer to a mutt...she was breeding the Pom to a Poodle (mostly purebred) and producing Pomiepoos that would sell like hotcakes..Neither of the parents would have been suitable for breeding purebreds, and their papers being faked didn't matter at all...BECAUSE..there was no breed standards, to show what the pomiepoo had to look like..Puppy mill operators take this to the extreme!
Your little dog was bred by a person who just likes the mixed breed, but you are one of the lucky ones, to get a nice healthy designer bred dog..

Answer 8

I don’t think people dislike Mutts they are the best dogs, however puggles , Labrdoodles etc are man made mutts. I think that it’s going too far. If you want a mutt just go to the dog pound more then ½ of their dogs are mutts. I don’t know where you live that getting a dog at the pound is that costly. Where I live it’s around 35 to 50 dollars.

One reasons mutts are healthier and generally live longer then their purebred cousins. Is because the lines are more spread out. Designer mutts have that benefit for now, but for how long will they have it?

Answer 9

I suppose a large majority of people like myself don't dislike mixed breeds-- from my experience, they can be just as loving and loyal as pure bred dogs. The 'stigma' you appear to be talking about comes with paying for a mix breed dog. When so many dogs are available for adoption, and with so many strays wandering around, why would people pay money for an intentional cross?

Answer 10

(1) THEY ARE NOT A BREED

They do not have a breed club and a breed registry as do the FSS breeds ( https://www.akc.org/reg/fss_details.cfm ) or all the AKC breeds

They do not have a breed standard as to phenotype and temperment

They do not have a core group of foundation stock who were selectively bred to establish a phenotype and genetic homozygosity for the traits

THEY ARE NOT A BREED

Maybe this one looks more like a pug, this one more like a beagle, this one the nose/tail of a beagle and the body of a pug, that one the nose of a pug on the body of a beagle.....

(2) got one from a very reputable breeder who is "not out to make a quick buck"

SORRY BUT UNLESS THAT BREEDER SCREENED FOR ALL THE HEREDITARY HEALTH PROBLEMS IN BOTH BREEDS, THEY ARE NOT A "REPUTABLE BREEDER" - and they did 'make a fast buck' by doing nothing more than letting their dog have sex.

Those test and exams are EXPENSIVE. We are NOT talking a checkup by the vet. These are xrays and exams by board certified opthamologists. Several of the hereditary conditions can only be tracked by knowing the bloodlines and the incidence with which those conditions occur and by not breeding affected dogs.

OVer 60% of pugs have elbow dysplasia, about 60% have hip dysplasia

PUG HEALTH PROBLEMS - the major ones

Cheyletiellosis
PUG DOG ENCEPHALITIS (PDE)
EPILEPSY
NERVE DEGENERATION
CORNEAL ULCERS
Keratoconjunctivitis Sicca or KCS) and PIGMENTARY KERATITIS (PK)
DYSTICHIA
ENTROPION
PROPTOSIS
THYROID
HEMI-VERTEBRAE
HIP DYSPLASIA
LEGG-PERTHES
LUXATING PATELLAS

BEAGLE HEALTH PROBLEMS -most of the major ones

Go here for the whole scary list and why there are so many and so widespread:

http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/beagle_health_problems.htm

Elongated Soft Palate: (Just like pugs)
Megaaesophagus (Esophageal Achalasia):
Perianal Gland Adenomas:
Aggressiveness (Excessive): Extremely assertive or forceful with other dogs & people, may attack or bite without reasonable provocation. (H - undetermined mode). First occurs +/- 3 years of age.
Cancer
Mastosarcoma:
Hypothyroidism (Autoimmune Thyroiditis, Hashimoto's Disease, Lymphcytic Thyroiditis): - just like Pugs
Deafness:
Vestibular Disease:
Central Progressive Retinal Atrophy (CPRA): - pugs
Corneal Dystrophy -pugs
Distichiasis -pugs
Entropion -pugs
Keratoconjunctivitis Sicca
Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA): - pugs
Hip Dysplasia -pugs
Intervertebral Disc Disease(IDD) -pugs also have a degenerative spinal condition
Luxation of the Patella (knee) -pugs
Cerebellar Degeneration
Epilepsy -pugs
Diabetes Mellitus (not good with the Pug's tendency to FAT!)
Dilated Cardiomyopophay (DCM):

And about 30 -40 MORE! Beagles have an enormous number of problems so that they overlap wiht virtually anything that can go wrong in either breed.

The genes for these things don't magically disappear if both dogs are carrying them just because they LOOK different!!


I do NOT hate mixed breeds because they are mixed. I dearly love my old Chow/Keeshond or maybe Australian Shepherd - who knows - mommy was a tramp but doing the bars and daddy was passing through town.

I AM NOT SO IGNORANT OR RIDICUOUSLY PRETENTIOUS AS TO PRETEND SHE IS A "BREED"

(Well, except that she is "Betsy dog - the only one of her kind.)

What I "hate" is the stupidity and incredible pretentiousness of people who pretend ,or are dumb enough to believe, that mixing two breeds with dogs from unknown genetic backgrounds and ZERO done in the way of health exams and clearances or a reviews of their bloodlines for such problems, is really "neat" and "creates a new breed" and that somme how soomebody waved a magic wand so that beagle with hip dysplaisa (with no syptoms yet) when bred to that pug with hip dysplaisa and not syptoms yet (or even just the high probability of having inherited the dysplaisa gene from a dysplasic parent) .will somehow miraculously produce puppies free of the hereditary health problem - a statistical impossiblity!!!

Maybe you like genetic Russian Roulette that can end in HUGE vets bills, a dog who dies early or is in constant pain. I do NOT.

My young Service Dog is incredibly blue-blooded with an immediate family full of Westminster winners and performance title holders and all with health exams up the yazooo - and I got exactly what he appeared on paper that he would be - and that is predicatability and consistency, the hallmarks of a real breed and breeding program.

Don't tell me how cute that puppy is - tell me how many of these oddball crosses have health problems 5,10 or 12 years from now.

Beagle and Pug breeders (the REAL responsible ones) have been working for decades to eliminate or reduce the health problems of their breeds - breeding only dogs who test clear; anteing up the money for reseach.....

Your so-called "responsible breeder wouldn't even have sprung for xrays of the hips, elbows and patellas let alone taken the parents off to the board certified opthamologist - only about $400 per dog at the point.

Bet you didn't get a written guarantee against hereditary health conditions did you??

Or that if for any reason you coudn't keep the dog, it would go back to the breeder whether it was 12 weeks or 12 years???

(And these are just a few of the things that a breeder who is really responsible does.)

Why anyone would deliberately want to bred a dog who feels to compelled to run for miles to a dog of a breed known even by its fand and admirers for not being able to find its way home from the neighbor's yard is incomprehensible. Great - now we have running off to miles away AND getting lost! Neither breed is exactly noted for their intelligence and trainability - Sit??? Come???

Why breed more mixes?? Go to any shelter and adopt one like my old girl. (And she went on to be a real honest to goodness Service Dog under the Americans With Disabilities Act. ) Yet no one, but no one, pretends that she is anything but a happy accident and it was an extreme roll of the dice.

As PT Barnum said "There is a sucker born every minute!!"

Go here and read more about the 'fad of the moment' breed of puggles: http://www.pugs.org/