How can Muslims change history His Story-and claim Jesus was born from a virgin, lived the sinless life required for the savior of the world, and promised in the Jewish scriptures, and say he didnt die for our sins, but went straight to heaven and will come back to reign!?
As a Jew I was taught the opposite and that Jesus never even existed-but movies and the word of God proved that was a lie-so I can understand how others can be self decieved to believe a religion-I was also taught Jesus was a lier and deciever--but the Jewish scriptures and His life proved that wrong too.
"He will be exaulted. He will first be marred more than any man. He will be despised and rejected. He will lay down his life as an atonement for sins. All we like sheep have gone astray, and the Lord will make to light on him the iniquity of us all. He will die with the wicked and be burried with the rich." Isaiah 52vs13-53vs12
when we want to change scriptures to make our religion right-is it ok?
2006-11-02 07:47:53 · 17 answers · asked by ? 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
of course not David I like your verses there reminds me of psalm 23 my faverate and JEsus saying I am the good shepherd and the good sheperd will lay down his life for his sheep. just as Jesus said deeper love as no man than he lay down his life for his brothers it all comes together when you read it properly
2006-11-02 07:53:34 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
David Israel,
You are a Christian. I do know that you seem to have some psychological disorders and therefore may not be capable of hearing dissent. Nonetheless, I must tell you david that I think this evil and deceptive form of missionizing you are perpetrating is degrading Christianity and the good, normal christians who practice it.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApnC4dngKeRuGKyqQldbLd_zy6IX?qid=20060723102937AA4N2eb
. It is, by definition, impossible for it to be "jewish" to believe in jesus. "Jewish" is, by defintion, what jews have historically and contemporarily believe. Since in neither scenario do we find "believing in jesus", then we must clearly realize that belief in jesus is not something "jewish". You can call it "biblical" (and still be wrong), but certainly not "jewish".
. On the side, the subject of Isaiah 53 is promised a "long life" and "seed" (i.e. physical children). Clearly this isn't about jesus.
. And Isaiah 7 is clearly not messianic if you read the whole chapter. and "alma" doesn't mean virgin either. You'd know that if you spoke hebrew (I guess learning basic hebrew wasn't part of your "extensive jewish upbringing", huh?)
. On the side, Isaiah 9 can't be about jesus since, according to christianity, he's the "son" not the "father" (as the verse states). Nor did he have control of the government (to the contrary, the roman government killed him). And he certainly did not establish "endless peace".
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Sources:
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/jewishsociety/Why_Jews_Dont_Believe_In_Jesus.asp
http://jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/general_messiah-criteria02.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_messiah#Textual_requirements
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oh, and lastly, I've decided that you truly epitomize everything I find intensely intellectually unsatisfying about christianity.
2006-11-02 16:32:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Strangely enough the three great nations of the world : Jews, Christians and Muslims are at variance with regard, both, to the birth as well as the death of Jesus Christ who was born among the Jews.
His Birth
The Jews declare his birth to be illegitimate and they are guilty of uttering a grievous calumny against Mary, mother of Jesus.
The Christians believe that Jesus Christ was born without the agency of an earthly father and that he was the son of God Himself.
The Muslims on their part, believe that Jesus, no doubt, was born without agency of an earthly father, but he was not the son of God.
His Death
The Jews believe that Jesus died on the cross because he was a false prophet.
The Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross in atonement of the sins of humanity, was resurrected soon thereafter, and then ascended to Heaven.
The orthodox Muslims believe that God saved Jesus from "death by crucifixion" and ascended bodily to heaven, and will come down to earth again to smash the cross and what it stands for and to purify the faith of the believers.
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community declares that Jesus Christ only fell into a swoon on the Cross, but when he was taken down from it, he recovered and migrated to Kashmir, India where he died a natural death at the age of 120.
2006-11-02 16:18:24 · answer #3 · answered by dreams 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Movies and the word of God" proves that he existed? Movies?! You have to be kidding right?!
Word of God? Whose version? Xitian or Jewish? OT or NT? Last time I checked there was no "Thus says the LORD" in the NT so I dont know if I would consider the NT the word of God. I dont think He speaks any words in it. Its all quotes from the OT.
2006-11-02 16:03:14 · answer #4 · answered by james.parker 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The word 'absolute fact' used by the Asker may depict absolute lack of an ability to know and understand 'another' view. No two histories of any king, any event, any evidence in court are alike. It is with intellect that we sift history from myth.
2006-11-02 15:54:15 · answer #5 · answered by sunamwal 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Its exactly the same thing Satan tries to do.
Satan says "Jesus did NOT die for your sins".
Mohammad says "Jesus did NOT die...umm...he was a mighty prophet and umm...prophets can't be killed by evil people so umm...yeah. Jesus didn't die on the cross. That makes more sense, so from now on...Jesus didn't die on the cross. Yeah. And if you don't believe me, then you are against God and will roast forever in the pits of fire! So there!!! I am the LAST PROPHET! And if you don't believe me, then you are against God and will roast forever in the pits of fire!"
Satan = prince of lies.
Islam = wolf in sheep's clothing.
2006-11-02 15:52:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Jesus is the way truth and the life...
Isaiah 9
God never allows private interpretation of His word (never pc).
2006-11-02 16:14:49 · answer #7 · answered by robert p 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Fact is something that can be proven without a doubt. Therefore, it is not a fact. And according to the biblical book of Barnabus, it confirms that he did not die.
2006-11-02 16:07:04 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Amen, and Amen Jesus is Lord, King, Christ, and GOD.
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
2006-11-02 15:51:44 · answer #9 · answered by bbjones9 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Fact: Jesus never existed.
Fact: All the stories about him were made up years later.
Fact: You can't come up with anything about him besides whats in the bible.
2006-11-02 15:52:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋