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Who are the false prophet and the wild beast ( see Chapter !3 ) and are these two entities literal persons ?
I am of the opinion as are others that these two are symbolic rather than being literal so how can a symbolic thing be tormented forever and ever.
Food for thought. Anyone answering please consider the material.

2006-11-02 04:09:59 · 20 answers · asked by djfjedi1976 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Where is your evidence to say that a raving lunatic wrote anything ? You have never read the bible, or do not know it baby.

2006-11-02 04:16:23 · update #1

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The wild beast and the false prophet of Chapter 13 are indeed symbolic. As in the book of Daniel the "wild beast" refers to governments and kingdoms. The "false prophet" refers to those who look to those earthly governments for their salvation rather than to God.

Just as the wild beast and false prophet are symbolic so is the "lake of fire" where these symbols are "tormented". Recall that "Death and Hades (or hell)" are spoken of as being cast into the lake of fire and sulphur - how could death and hell be literally tormented? The 'lake of fire' means the second death. It does not mean literal fire.

What, then, does the torment mean?

The Greek word used here for “torment,” ba·sa·ni′zo, means primarily “to test (metals) by the touchstone.” “To question by applying torture” is a second meaning. (The New Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament) In the context, the use of this Greek word indicates that what happens to Satan will serve, for all eternity, as a touchstone on the issue of God's right to rule.

Also, the related word ba·sa·ni·stes′, “tormentor,” is used in the Bible to mean “jailer.” (Matthew 18:34, Kingdom Interlinear) In harmony with this, Satan will be imprisoned in the lake of fire forever; he will never be released. Finally, in the Greek Septuagint, which was well known to John, the related word ba′sa·nos is used to refer to humiliation that leads to death. (Ezekiel 32:24, 30) This helps us to see that the punishment that Satan undergoes is a humiliating, everlasting death in the lake of fire and sulfur. His works die with him.—1 John 3:8.

2006-11-02 04:28:07 · answer #1 · answered by eliz_esc 6 · 4 2

The false prophet or harlot are Babylon the Great. This is after Babylon has fallen so this Babylon the Great refers to false religion, those claiming things in Gods name but actually working against God. The wild beast is today's' world governments who are prophesied to turn on the false prophet or harlot. If you also notice the harlot is with the wild beast, riding on its back. The wild beast has multiple heads, horns, and crowns on each head. The horns and crowns classify which world power it represents. (King of the North, South, West, East, etc.) When the wild beast turns on the false prophet or harlot (the governments turn on all religion) this signifies the beginning of Armageddon.

The harlot being tormented is not in the original texts of the Bible, you must be using a Catholic Douay or some other modern translation. It is said that she will be cast in to the lake of fire which represents eternal and final destruction, not torment. Thus meaning the destruction of false religion, allowing only true believers to enter God's kingdom.

Hope this answers your question, Peace

2006-11-02 04:33:00 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

the false prophet is the false religion and the wild beast is a world power (United Nations). the 7 heads and 10 horns represents the world powers(assyrian empire, egyptian empire, roman empire,etc...and the last one anglo-saxon empire, USA and Great Britain). the wild beast with 2 horns is like the 8th world power (like i said, United Nations). they are not going to be tormented forever, but destroyed forever. the lake of fire is a symbol; it represents the second death (Rev. 20:14). nobody can be resurrected from there. Jehova's witnesses published a book which explains the book of Revelation. i think its called 'Revelation, its grand climax is near'...im not sure. but the witnesses make a lot of sense. im not yet one of them, but i might be. good luck finding the truth.:)

2006-11-02 04:48:34 · answer #3 · answered by dicadori 1 · 4 0

The battle of Armegeddon is God's final war against all wickedness. This war will begin with the destruction of all false religion and anyone who is associated with it and will end with the destruction of all political governments and all who are associated with them and the abyssing of Satan and his demons. "Babylon the Great" and the "wild beast" will be gone forever.
Unfortunately, many will die at Armegeddon. Consider this Scripture at Revelation 19:17,18--"And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in mid heaven, Come and be gathered together unto the great supper of God; that ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses and of them that sit thereon, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, and small and great."
Notice it says "great supper." These are the ones who worship the "wild beast" and it's image and are part of "Babylon the Great," the world empire of all false religion.
People have been and are still being warned to "get out of her" before her destruction occurs. They are still being warned to stop giving worship to the beast and it's image. (all political and governmental powers)
In order to survive, they must break all ties to both.
This prophecy is now being fulfilled in over 235 lands:
Matthew 24:14--" And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come." ASV

2006-11-02 05:19:51 · answer #4 · answered by Micah 6 · 2 1

When I read the Bible, I take it literally, unless there is some compelling reason to do otherwise. For example, parables are not real but stories to teach a point.

I believe there is plenty of stuff in Revelation that ought to be taken literally. There are, however, clear metaphors...for example the dragon trying to consume the child of the woman. This, I believe, refers to satan trying to destroy Christ, who came from the Jews.

That said, Revelation does seem to refer to nations as beasts, whether they have wings like eagles with many eyes, etc. Clearly there are two elements here: the beast and the false prophet. They have power; they do miraculous things; and, they will deceive many. In the end their destiny is known: they will be the first in hell, followed by satan and all those without faith in Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

2006-11-02 04:20:37 · answer #5 · answered by BowtiePasta 6 · 1 3

You are talking with eyes that aren't enlightened. God loves guy and has placed him right here on this planet to come back to the cognizance that there are lots of offerings available in the market, however just one ends up in God. This is given that God made guy in his possess photograph and that implies incredibly sensible and with unfastened will. If there weren't different offerings then picking out to like God as he loves us could now not be unfastened will. The judgments you spot in Revelations are the judgments coming upon all the ones whose option used to be to not love the One True God, however to like different matters to comprise fake faith. Keep looking for and listen to him whilst he calls.

2016-09-01 06:04:37 · answer #6 · answered by vandevanter 3 · 0 0

First of all, I like your picture. lol The beast in Rev. is man's evil human nature. That's why everyone who's names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will worship him. Don't forget the word worship means "Love and Serve". The false prophet is the lamb beast of chapter 13. It is the false Christian who pretends to be a sheep, that's why he has 2 horns like a lamb. He really loves and serves the beast, himself. They are not tormented forever. They are thrown into the lake of fire and the SMOKE of their torment rises forever. The smoke I think represents the memory of them but not sure. Good luck. There may be other interpretations too, especially political ones that fit but I know this is a true one, also.

2006-11-02 04:16:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

If they are symbolic, then maybe whoever is adhering to whatever they symbolize will be tormented forever and ever. I think they actually are beings though, if not literally in the form that they have in Revelation.

2006-11-02 04:13:51 · answer #8 · answered by Free Ranger 4 · 0 2

False prophet - Pope
Beast, well there are 4, but the one in chapter 13 is Roman Catholosism

2006-11-02 04:21:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

John is seemingly referring to the Roman emperor, but he is also personifying the forces of evil, and his condemnation of the emperor is due to the fact that John believes Satan is incarnate in the actions of the empire, for Satan and the empire are linked together for the achievement of a common purpose.

In writing Revelation, John follows the pattern that was used in older apocalyptic writings in the Old Testament (such as the Book of Daniel in the Old Testament, 1 Esdras in the Apocrypha, the Book of Enoch in the Pseudepigrapha, the Assumption of Moses), and many other well known writings, including sections of the Book of Ezekiel in the Old Testament and portions of the Synoptic Gospels. In all of these writings, events appear as though they were predicted long before they actually took place. The revelations are usually through dreams or visions in which coming events are symbolized by strange figures, the meanings of which are sometimes disclosed by an angelic messenger who was sent for that particular purpose. The apocalypses were produced in times of crises, and they were written for the benefit of people who were suffering hardship and privation at the particular time when the writing was done.

In characterizing this power that now appears to be gaining mastery over the world, John resorts to imagery used in the Book of Daniel to describe the wicked ruler who tried to coerce the Jews into submission. The author of the Book of Daniel uses the symbol of a great and terrible beast that has seven heads and ten horns. In like manner, John uses a beast to represent the Roman emperor, whose image was stamped on the coins used in the empire. At one point, John is quite specific in his identification of the one symbolized by the beast. He says, “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.” John is seemingly referring to the Roman emperor, but he is also personifying the forces of evil, and his condemnation of the emperor is due to the fact that John believes Satan is incarnate in the actions of the empire, for Satan and the empire are linked together for the achievement of a common purpose.

2006-11-02 04:12:25 · answer #10 · answered by Justsyd 7 · 0 3

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