Why do atheist call Christians "closed minded" and "ignorant"?

Question

I don't understand the reasoning behind this. Is it because Christians do not accept theories of man as true and correct?
Is it because all scientific reasons explaining where Earth and man came from are only theory.
I have news for all of you. I have studied the big bang theory, and I have studied the theory of evolution. I've even studied mythology and other religions. It is all hogwash. Scientists cannot convince themselves that evolution happend, nor the big bang. The only truth is in Him. Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.

Who is truly closed minded? Those who only believe in what they can see, or those who can believe in what they have never seen?
Who has the harder belief? Those that listen to what man says, or those who obey God's word. It is easier to believe in what you can see.
May I suggest to evolutionist- don't believe in what a scientist said, do the research youself and see what you find. Do the same with the Bible.

And for those who say that I was close minded in my studies- I wasn't a Christian at the time. I was in the dark- searching for answers. Some say they don't believe words written by man- but who wrote your science books?

Also, about transitional fossils, mitochondrial DNA, and evolution-
Which of these have you found for yourself? How much of it have you read in Science Weekly? How many fossils have you dug up? Also- How do "you" know for yourself that carbon dating is in the least accurate?
You believe these things because you read them.
You'll have to do better in your next "aim and fire" attempt at my faith.
I am not asking you to stop with your insults, and I'm not asking you to stop studying science. It is interesting, but flawed.
What I am asking you is to pick up your cross, lay your sins at His feet knowing that no one is perfect, and follow Him.

And the cute comment about owning guns and loving Jesus.............. where in the Bible does it say anything about it? I think that was pretty lame.

Answer 1

I love these people who use science to defend their views - just who created Science - MAN DID - how many men have lived on this Earth that never made a mistake? ONE - and He did not bring us science to explain how He created this Earth - He brought His Word.

Man created science therefore science has flaws.

Answer 2

As you say you did, I did my own research, both studying different religions & science. Science explains all of the physical evidence more than religion. Buddism explains the concept of reincarnation (the Christians never gave me an acceptable explanation about why innocents, such as the babies in Iraq have to suffer & die). Spirituality explains spirits, etc. I don't mean Satanism I agree there is an evil force. I am an agnostic There are too many things I can't explain and won't pretend to understand, but I refuse to accept (anymore) the stories written by men. I have read the Bible all the way through once & parts of it many times. It is full of violence---rape, murder, etc. It's also anti-woman. Instead of seeing women as the gateway to new life, the Bible portrays us as evil. I'm respecting your point of view. Please respect mine.

Answer 3

I have done the research myself. I found the Bible so horribly riddled with evil, corruption, errors, and immorality that I could never begin to again believe it is true.

As for the evidence for evolution -- of course evolution cannot be proved. Nor can the theory of gravity (which is currently the theory of relativity, which we KNOW to be in error, because it cannot be reconciled with quantum gravity). Nor can the theory of thermodynamics.

Science can prove nothing; only disprove.

Imagine you have a list of 100 ideas, but don't know if they're true or false. Remember: a fact is a falsifiable statement, not necessarily a TRUE statement, so you don't even know if all 100 are facts. However, you are CERTAIN that at least one of them is true.

You scan through the list and find that easily half of them are not falsifiable. So you can set them aside, but not throw them away -- since they're not falsifiable, you can never know if they're true or not. Of the remaining fifty, you do a single test and find that 20 are false.

This leaves you 30 potential truths. So you do more tests. After the second round, you have proven 15 of them false. After the fifth round of tests, you're down to only five that haven't been proven wrong. After ten rounds, you have three left. After one hundred rounds, two are left. You test these two a thousand times. Ten thousand times... it's starting to look pretty good that they're true. Twenty thousand times... fairly certain.

How many times until you are 100% certain that those two are in fact 'true'?

What do you do when that million-and-one time, you finally find the test that proves one of them false? What do you do when you run out of ideas on how to test them?

Science doesn't prove. It disproves and accepts that which has been tested thoroughly and not disproven. Science literally operates on the idea, "every fact is potentially wrong."

Christianity operates openly on the idea, "These ideas, utterly untestable, are completely and utterly right and it's a sin to even THINK to test them."

That's closed minded and ignorant.

Answer 4

A athiest who assumes a person is closed minded or ignorant just because the person is a Christian (or other religion) is probably very closed minded and ignorant. I am an Athiest but I love to have debates with an open minded Christian. That is how I learn. Just like science, I am constantly learning new things and re-evaluating my theories about life.

Answer 5

If you call the science you mentioned "hogwash," then either you didn't study it enough, or you failed to understand it.

The "closed minded" and "ignorant" labels come about because many christians approach any subject with their minds already made up -- which may have been the case with your "study." If you go into "study" with your mind already made up that what you're going to study is wrong, then you're not studying.
You say you've "studied" evolution -- ok, then what does the history of mitochondrial DNA tell us about human origins and timelines? How do you account for all of the transitional fossils found? What biological problems in the human eye can be directly traced back to early eukaryote light-sensing cell evolution?

Here's the deal: a christian will post something on here such as, "every single thing in the bible is absolute truth." Many of those have never even read the full bible (I have, dozens of times), let alone researched any of the issues raised by biblical stories -- they just say that because somebody (parents, pastor, priest) told them that's the way it is. They'll defend the story of Noah's ark, despite no evidence of any kind of a global flood, the impossibility of fitting even 1/10,000th of the world's species into an ark the size described in the bible, the lack of accounting for species not known or existing in the Mesopotamian region Noah was supposed to be from, etc. Not to mention that the Babylonians had a hero-god story of a man who built an ark to ride out a flood and carried animals with him that was supposed to have happened thousands of years before the story of Noah, and from which the Hebrews obviously borrowed the mythology.

You have one large problem with your statements -- there is no "belief" required for evolution, geology, cosmology, biology, etc. Science deals with facts, not belief. Theories that are proposed that are not supported by facts are discarded, not held on to as dogma and evidence manufactured to "fit", as with religion. That evolution by natural selection has been confirmed by hundreds of thousands of observations, fossil finds, DNA tests, geological records, and direct experiments shows that the evidence -- not belief -- is so strong in favor of it that it is considered fact by every single scientist who works by the scientific method.

You say it's wrong? Fine -- offer proof. That's how science works. It's not enough for you to just say "it is all hogwash" -- PROVE that it's hogwash. If you can, any scientist will listen. If you can't, you have no ground to stand on just because you don't like it.

Who is truly closed-minded? There are none so blind as those who will not see...the evidence before their eyes, and spout dogma that a thousands-years-old myth is more true than hard facts and evidence right before your eyes.

Answer 6

Not Christians -- radical Biblical literalists.

There is a group that have abandoned the teachings of Christ to defend Genesis 1-6 by any means: sweeping generalizations, rhetorical deception, selective evidence, and outright lies. As an example of sweeping generalizations, they say that it is an attack on Christians.

Answer 7

Because Christians rely on a dogmatic religious book for answers to everything, when we're living in quite a different world than 2000 years ago. We know for a fact that the world is more than 6000 years old, and we know it was formed under conditions different than Creation. We know that evolution exists, and just because you say it doesn't, doesn't matter. You're not a scientist. The only people trying to debate evolution are religious. There is no debate within the scientific community, as different fields of science all have a vast amount of evidence proving evolution.

I have done the research. The Bible is full of murder, rape, and condemnation. It claims to know the perfect truth of the world, when it's full of so many lies and contradictions it's not even funny. On the other hand, science only looks for natural explanations that can be formed from empirical evidence. You should go find out what 'empirical evidence' means, because I don't think you understand.

Answer 8

They will never do that. It's a whole pots v. kettles thing. WE are called close minded for not wavering, but I have never seen an athiest truly give a christian any quarter in this arguement. I've had a few, "You can believe what you want" kind of responses, but they always follow it with, "but I don't believe in fairytales." They won't waver on their ideas, which is just as close minded and ignorant as they claim we are.

Answer 9

Awesome answer 2ndammend, your absolutely right. I've been waiting for a Christian to come on here who has studied in detail evolution, and the big bag theory and who has come out with the conclusion that Jesus is Lord. Onward Christian soldier !!

Answer 10

This is something that you need to realize the world sees, as we dont see- We who are believers in Christ see the truth- because God has revealed it to us- It does not make us "better people" just makes us secure in Christ- we do know the truth and we want others to know it too! They do not see it that way- they see it as us being closeminded because we stick to ONE Truth- when in reality we know this ONE truth will set us free- and that when it comes to truth we are not going to accept false doctrine or false gods....that is like saying to someone you care about who believes in something other than the Lord Jesus Christ- "its ok if you are going to hell, I love you anyway-" they dont see it that way- they see us as being judgmental so we need to be aware NOT to come across that way- to speak the truth in LOVE and show them we CARE about them- that is why we share the truth with them--- like if your neighbors house was on fire, you would warn them! You would try to tell them while they were in the house---if they didnt know it was on fire....instead of sit back and "hope" they found a way out.