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2006-11-01 08:28:28 · 33 answers · asked by unknown 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

The Bible says "for by grace you have been saved through Faith, and not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast" (Eph 2:8,9) So does that mean if we are saved through Faith, and if one loses His faith in Christ, he no longer has a relationship with the Father until that individual repents and turn back to Christ, Correct? So in other words, b/c we do have Faith in Christ should we not also want to practice walking as He walked and produce good fruit?

2006-11-01 08:49:47 · update #1

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OSAS is a very divisive question. It serves no purpose but to divide Christians. Therefore the concept is a work of the devil. I don’t mean you godannointedme2. You obviously are not the devil. I mean the concept. Who cares? Maintain and protect your faith. If you believe that you are always saved and you turn away (and are still saved) your life will still be meaningless in the eyes of God. I believe that the very idea of OSAS is dangerous in itself. It allows even the most faithful Christian to expose himself to temptation. We are commanded to guard our faith. If you believe that you can’t lose your salvation, you will be more careless with your lifestyle and choices as well as with the people you associate with. This puts you on that slippery slope to losing your faith. Even if YOU personally won’t go to hell if you lose your faith, your purpose for God becomes limited.

Please remember this when this topic comes up. The concept itself is meaningless and only serves the devil. Even asking the question divides Christians. ESPECIALLY when you say things like "if you were once saved and lose your faith, you were never saved to begin with."

OOOOH that aggravates me! HOW can you know the mind of God? The idea is PURE work of the devil. WHO CARES if it's true or not? What difference does it make? Can ANY ANY ANY good come from the thought? If so, can you please explain it to me?

Play it safe. Protect your faith. Stay clear of temptation and you'll be okay.

2006-11-01 08:47:39 · answer #1 · answered by SmartAlex 4 · 3 0

1 Tim 1:19 Faith can be shipwrecked
1 Tim 4:1 Faith can be departed from
1 Tim 5:8 Faith can be disowned
1 Tim 6:10 Faith can be wandered from
1 Tim 6:21 Faith can be missed
Gal 5:21 Salvation is an inheritance
Jam 1:17 You can lose the free gift given
Phil 2:12, 1 Cor 9:24-27, 2 Cor 13:5 Faith a life long process
Jam 2:24 Faith alone condemned
Rom 1:5, 16:26 Works in Love
John 15:11 As long as they remain that way
Heb 6:4-6 Describes sharers in Holy Spirit who then fall away
Mt 7:21 Not everyone who says Lord Lord will inherit

LASTLY---Mt 24:13, those who persevere to the end will be saved

2006-11-01 08:39:17 · answer #2 · answered by Lives7 6 · 1 0

No, that is totally untrue. People try to use that as an excuse to commit sin without the guilt or consequences. What does the Bible have to say?. Consider this:
HEBREWS 10:26--"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins."
So what does this tell us? That once we are baptized and know the truth and then we knowingly practice sin, there is no forgiveness left. That would be putting God to the test.
So many people think they are "saved" when in reality God is displeased with their conduct.

2006-11-01 09:02:40 · answer #3 · answered by Micah 6 · 3 0

1st John 5:18 and 1st. Peter 2:25 and also John 6:37 show our salvation as permanent. The argument that someone could fall away always bothered me, but was told the truly saved would not fall away. Makes sense really. Mercy is not getting what you deserve, but GRACE is getting what you could never deserve. Thank God.
I want to add an observation, isn't it wonderful to have a good question and have serious answers with no ridicule and insults? Wish it could be like this all the time.

2006-11-01 08:39:07 · answer #4 · answered by Grandma Susie 6 · 0 1

Many people have a misunderstanding of salvation. God calls His people, the elect, to salvation. We, who are the elect, are saved from the beginning of time, before we were even born, God knew us, and called us to salvation. There is nothing we did to earn this, nor deserve this. It is purely by grace. The penalty for our sins has been paid, there is nothing more to be done. Since we did nothing to gain salvation, it is the gift of God, how could we do anything to lose it? God will not withdraw this gift from His elect. To those who claimed that they were once Christians then left the faith, either you have chosen not to be in fellowship with God and His people, but are still saved, or, more than likely, Christ never knew you.

2006-11-01 08:51:46 · answer #5 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 0 1

Accepting Christ doesn't destroy one's free will, nor does it stop Satan from trying to lure us away. We all know people who have accepted Christ and lived the gospel for years, only to fall away later. It's easy to say, "well that means they never really accepted Christ in the first place". But who are we to judge? If a person was faithful for years, it is reasonable to believe that he/she was sincere and truly accepted Christ. But he/she was still human and still subject to sin. This is why the Bible tells us, "he who endures to the end WILL BE saved. Satan likes nothing better than having Christians think they are already eternally saved. Why run the race if you already have the prize?

The Bible tells us that God protects His own, and will not let us be snatched away. But it certainly does not say that we can't walk away of our own free will.

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2006-11-01 08:35:43 · answer #6 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 3 0

It is certainly possible to discard or return any gift, whether from God or otherwise.

Those who persevere in God's grace until the end have hopeful assurances of salvation.

Someone who was saved in 1946 and hasn't spoken to God since, may end up spending a lot of quality time with Satan.

2006-11-01 12:15:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I believe that once you're truly saved, nothing, no one, not even yourself can take you out of God's hand. If I didn't have that assurance, my relationship with God would become a works-based religion, trying to do good and not mess-up so I could stay saved. That's not the way God is - He keeps His promises, even when we screw up. A sinful lifestyle indicates that either the person was never saved or their relationship with God is just really bad and they will be sorrowful one day that they did not give their life for the Lord Who gave His life for them. They will not have the crowns to lay at His feet that they would have had if they had made good choices in life.

2006-11-01 08:34:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Yes it is possible to fall away from the faith and die in sin. I do not believe 'once saved always saved'. The Christian walk is an ongoing relationship. People backslide or go hot or cold in their faith all the time. That's just being human. But I know [and some are here] Christians who have conciously turned away and renounced Christianity. The choice is always theirs [ours].

2006-11-01 08:31:14 · answer #9 · answered by Char 7 · 4 1

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2016-09-01 05:39:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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