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I've seen many passages in the bible that suggest we will live eternally on earth such as:

Ec 1:4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.
Ps 104:5 He has founded the earth upon its established places;
It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.
Ps 37:11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
Ps 37:29 The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it.
Mat 5:5 “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth."

okay and here's the only quotes that I could find that mentioned people being in heaven, I'm sure there's more but I can't find any....
"With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them." Rev21:3

2006-10-31 18:52:18 · 10 answers · asked by Gary R 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I would appreciate some scriptures or references from the scriptures, I'm having trouble on this issue.

2006-10-31 18:55:33 · update #1

My given statement? I was quoting the bible, unless you don't believe what's in there.

2006-10-31 19:12:24 · update #2

10 answers

Heaven

2006-10-31 18:53:58 · answer #1 · answered by Dr Dee 7 · 0 2

The Hebrew word usually translated "forever," "eternal," or "everlasting," does not usually mean forever. The word olam usually means indefinite (undetermined, until something changes). Several of the verses you mentioned even has the word indefinite in the verse. It's more like when we say something like, "our love will last forever," or, "let us erect a memorial so these people will be remembered forever." Well, these things will not actually be remembered forever. It is a hyperbole.

Matthew 5:5 is probably referring to this lifetime. Matthew was written to Jews. The Jews wanted to establish a Kingdom that would take over the world by force. Jesus' kingdom would take over the world through meekness. This is probably meant specifically as a new teaching for the Jews as to what God's kingdom (the church) is to be about. I believe that is what the beatitudes are all about, actually.

It is also possible that this is referring to the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21:1).

Our final destination will not be here on Earth. Read 1 John 2:15-17. We will be with God, and God is in heaven, so it seems that we will be in heaven.

2006-10-31 19:24:05 · answer #2 · answered by Serving Jesus 6 · 0 0

At the risk of being considered crazy by most people including Christians, Heaven, even though it is perfect, is basically a holding place. When Christ comes at the second coming, He will take up His throne on earth at Jerusalem and reign on earth a thousand years. We will reign with him(the church). At the end of that age He will recreate both Heaven and Earth and make everything new again. All during this period we will be going back and forth between Heaven and earth. But understand this: Earth is our Home, forever.
The earth was created by God Almighty to be our Home forever.
Heaven is our Home away from Home if you will.

This position is what many notable Christians have taken for quite some time. I believe this is also the position of the NT writers.
I Cr 13;8a, Love never fails!!!!! Jesus is Lord!!!!!
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You asked for scriptures and I am not prepared to give you any.
However, I suggest the writings of Hal Lindsey, Chuck Smith, Jack van Impe, Tim La Haye, Charles Capps et al. These authors are on the net and in Christian book stores.

2006-10-31 19:02:22 · answer #3 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

In common sense, life have to go through from infant to adult then to old age and lastly our life will end on earth after death.
As everybody knows the earth is the creation of God , too.
As God's mercy and benevolence towards human being had been rewarded with disobedience and ignorant , the time will arrive when God will put an end to the world. Your given statements look more like a fairy tales.

2006-10-31 19:06:36 · answer #4 · answered by S.K. Chan46 3 · 0 0

I have seen everyone in the graveyard! I have no idea where will be our final destination because of the lack of solid evidence. But one thing I am sure about is, if we are doing good deeds in our life, then there is no need of worrying about the final destination because a good life must have a good result. So believing in heaven will never make trouble to the life because it forces us to be a good human being.

2006-10-31 19:11:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

the dominion of Heaven and the dominion of God are 2 multiple issues. the dominion of God is the place God regulations, and by way of this present day it incredibly is in the guts of the Believer who God has rule over. the dominion of Heaven spoken usually approximately in Matthew 13 is the dominion because it purposes on earth the place it incredibly is corrupted by capacity of guy. study matt 13 and you will quickly see that.

2016-10-21 01:55:09 · answer #6 · answered by saggio 4 · 0 0

The final destination will be within God Himself. He will draw all things into Himself. He is the Alpha and the Omega. Everything will be as it was in the beginning.

2006-10-31 18:59:08 · answer #7 · answered by Diddle 2 · 0 0

heaven

2006-10-31 19:04:27 · answer #8 · answered by Claudio Mota III 5 · 0 0

heaven........

2006-10-31 19:28:57 · answer #9 · answered by mhar 1 · 0 0

You have seen what so many cannot see, God has open your eyes to His truth, Praise God. Here is something your will like to read, but it is a little long, still you will see more truth of our Father in heaven, may God always help you to see and hear.

The Millennium-
Will it be spent in Heaven, or on the Earth? PDF



Millions of Christians are familiar with the 1000 years of Christ's future reign. However, many mainstream fundamentalist churches all teach that a man's soul goes instantly to heaven when he dies, denying a millennial reign on the earth, while one of the major Sabbatarian religions (Seventh-Day Adventist) teaches that the Millennium will be spent in heaven. Why such confusion? You will be shocked to learn that your Bible absolutely proves that the kingdom will rule on this earth!
"And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them....And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years" (Revelation 20:4).

Millions have read these words. Millions believe in the literal, bodily Second Coming of Jesus Christ-and millions are beginning to understand that Christ is going to set up His ruling kingdom.

As never before, a tremendous fascination with events of the future has gripped the minds of millions!

Hal Lindsey, author of several best-sellers, not the least of which was his original The Late Great Planet Earth, as well as many other authors, has contributed to informing countless millions of Americans, Britons, Canadians, Europeans, and many others that we are, in fact, living in "the time of the end," as prophesied in the Bible; that a violent revolution is going to take place on the earth, and that, eventually, the Kingdom of God will be set up!

Yet, for all the ballyhoo over the fact of Christ's imminent return-the fact of the setting up of the Kingdom of God-there remains great confusion in the minds of millions about where that kingdom will reign!

The Bible Prophesies Confusion

This is hardly a surprise to serious students of the Bible.

Satan the devil is described as that great serpent "which deceiveth the whole world" (Revelation 12:9), and Jesus Christ clearly prophesied that the time of His Second Coming would be a time of mass confusion, deception, delusion, and spiritual darkness!

John writes, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world" (1 John 4:13).

Millions have heard that there is one individual, called the "false prophet" in biblical prophecy, who will literally proclaim himself to be very God, and who will deceive millions!

John also warned, "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist" (2 John 7).

What many do not realize is that there are many who bear the title "antichrist," and that it is plainly true from your Bible that anyone who does not confess that Jesus Christ is able to live His life over within us (Galatians 2:20) is the spirit of antichrist.

That one great false prophet is described by Paul:

"Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:3,4).

Later, the apostle Paul said that this great false christ would have such satanic power and lying wonders (verse 9) that multitudes would be completely deceived.

Notice! "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie" (verses 911).

Satan the devil is the archdeceiver.

However, remember that a deceived person can be completely innocent, unaware of the fact that he or she is deceived.

A person laboring through various forms of mental and religious deception can be a thirsting, questing, sincere person!

He can have the best of motives; be of impeccable character and integrity; be striving to live a pure and holy Christian life!

Just because a person is deceived does not mean he is deliberately wrong!

Oftentimes, our human defenses rise up and argue when an article such as this might begin to tug at the corners of our mind, making us wonder whether certain concepts and beliefs we have held to be true are, in fact, false.

We regard it as an attack upon our "empirical self." Our defenses immediately begin to excuse ourselves: Surely we could not have been deceived!

We tend to believe that anything which proves we have held a wrong belief represents an attack upon our character!

Not so!

It may have nothing to do with character! People of good character can be deceived!

Satan the devil is the "prince of the power of the air" (Ephesians 2:2), and is identified as the present evil god of this sin-sick, deceived world (2 Corinthians 4:4)!

How the Deception Is Being Prepared

What is your protection against deception?

What is most important to you?

Are your concepts the traditions and cherished religious beliefs you received as a child growing up or in the church you attended, or is the criterion you use for belief the yardstick of the holy, sacred, absolute Word of God?

In this article you will see exposed one of the great false teachers of recent years!

You will see how deliberate distortions of the Bible were perpetuated, and how countless thousands have swallowed them whole, never comparing, carefully, what so-called religious leaders have written with the Bible!

Somehow, as religious people begin looking to a human, religious leader, they subtly begin to exchange that leader for Jesus Christ!

There finally comes a time in this idolatrous type of human worship where the unsuspecting lay member has unknowingly substituted his religious leader for Jesus Christ Himself!

At that point, the human religious leader, though fallible, gripped by egotism and vanity, can begin to propound and teach doctrines which are directly contrary to the written Word of God, and the followers will meekly go right along with it; never questioning, convinced they must follow that religious leader "no matter what!"

No longer are they constrained to follow a human religious leader only as he follows Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1)-now they will begin to say following that religious leader only as "he follows Christ" is "not good enough"!

For the purposes of the remainder of this article, we will investigate the doctrine of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, which teaches that the saints will be assumed into heaven for the period of 1000 years for "investigative judgment," while the earth remains absolutely desolate, with Satan the devil virtually its only inhabitant, endlessly reviewing the awful destruction his rebellion has wrought.

Adventists are very familiar with the doctrine of the saints going to heaven for the 1000 year reign of Christ, and the "desolate earth" as portrayed in some of the writings of Mrs. E.G. White.

Certainly, none of her books is more cogent to this doctrine than The Great Controversy.

Of course, widespread sensational publicity has revealed that leaders in the Seventh-Day Adventist Church have themselves begun to debunk Mrs. E.G. White as a false prophetess, and, allegedly, a proved plagiarist, who did not really originate all of the prolific writings with which she is credited, but who may have heavily borrowed from other sources, for which she never gave credit.

The "great controversy," indeed, now seems to be whether Mrs. E.G. White ever was a "prophetess," as tens of thousands of Seventh-Day Adventists have supposed, and whether her books truly carry anywhere near the weight it was previously supposed.

Actually, many sincere Seventh-Day Adventists placed the writings of Mrs. E.G. White on an equal par with the Bible!

First, let's see a description from The Great Controversy of how Mrs. E.G. White imagined the scenario both in heaven and on earth at the time of the beginning of the Millennium:

"At the coming of Christ the wicked are blotted from the face of the whole earth-consumed with the spirit of His mouth and destroyed by the brightness of His glory. Christ takes His people to the city of God, and the earth is emptied of its inhabitants....The whole earth appears like a desolate wilderness. The ruins of cities and villages destroyed by the earthquake, uprooted trees, ragged rocks thrown out by the sea or torn out of the earth itself, are scattered over its surface, while vast caverns mark the spot where the mountains have been rent from their foundations....As the scapegoat was sent away into a land not inhabited, so Satan will be banished to the desolate earth, an uninhabited and dreary wilderness. The revelator foretells the banishment of Satan and the condition of chaos and desolation to which the earth is to be reduced, and he declares that this condition will exist for a thousand years" (The Great Controversy, pp. 657,658).

At least one full volume would be required to thoroughly critique the gross errors, flagrant misquotations, distortions, and perversions of Scripture which appear in The Great Controversy.

The foregoing represents only portions of two pages in the chapter entitled "Desolation of the Earth" in Mrs. E.G. White's well-known book The Great Controversy.

Now, please get your own Bible and carefully perform the following experiment:

Immediately below, you will see quoted, word for word, exactly Mrs. E.G. White's version of Isaiah 24:1,3,5, and 6.

Remember, her doctrine (commonly accepted by many Seventh-Day Adventists), as briefly set forth above, asserts that the entirety of the earth will be absolutely desolate for the period of the millennial reign of Jesus Christ; that the saints are up in heaven, while Satan the devil is chained to a desolate, uninhabited earth, suffering some alleged mental anguish at seeing all of his attempted plots and plans-the overthrow of God's throne and His government-destroyed.

But is this what the Bible says?

As you shall see, one would have to be afflicted with a strange case of "tunnel vision," indeed, to presuppose that Mrs. White, in writing this chapter, with her own Bible open before her to Isaiah 24, did not see the many portions she deliberately left out of her quotation-the very key words and phrases which would have utterly destroyed her entire theory of a "desolate earth" for 1000 years!

For the purposes of your experiment, if you do not wish to mark in your own Bible, simply write out the words from your own King James Bible that Mrs. E.G. White deliberately omitted!

Is your Bible ready?

Is it open to Isaiah 24:16?

If it is, then let us proceed!

This is Mrs. White's version, found approximately two-thirds of the way down on page 657 of The Great Controversy:

"At the coming of Christ the wicked are blotted from the face of the whole earth-consumed with the spirit of his mouth and destroyed by the brightness of his glory. Christ takes his people to the city of God, and the earth is emptied of its inhabitants. Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word. Because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned" (Isaiah 24:1,3,5,6).

Now go back and underline, or write out, all of the words from verses 16 which were omitted from Mrs. White's quotation.

They are as follows: "and it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof;...and few men left" (Isaiah 24:6)!

What a difference! But now, for the purposes of your experiment, go back and read the entirety of Isaiah 24 in its proper context!

Let's notice some salient points which Mrs. E.G. White apparently failed to notice!

The subject of Isaiah 24 is obviously God's punishments to come on this earth at the very time of the Great Tribulation (verses 118), the Heavenly Signs (verse 23), the Day of the Lord, and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ (verse 23).

But does Isaiah 24 say that the entire earth is completely emptied of all of its inhabitants?

Notice the following statement!

"Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof" (verse 1).

Remember, the Hebrew word for "earth" is ehrets, which can mean the land, partitively or commonly. It can apply to the whole world, or it can apply to "the land" being spoken of in the context. In this case, it is speaking (as it is obvious in the context) of "the land" for the simple reason that the Holy Scriptures say God will "scatter abroad the inhabitants thereof"!

What happens to these inhabitants-human, living, breathing people-on the earth? Are they utterly destroyed? Is there not a single man, woman, or child left? Is the earth to be rendered completely desolate and empty of all inhabitants?

No! The Bible says the inhabitants (citizens, people, population) are "scattered abroad"! that means they are widely dispersed from one part of the land (ehrets) to another part.

Then follows verse 2, which says there is no respecter of persons; that it will be the same with the priest, maid, mistress, buyer, seller, lender, and so on.

Notice verse 4! It says, "...the haughty people of the earth do languish"! To "languish" means to mourn; to be afflicted, perhaps in desperate straits of hardship, privation, even injury and wounds! But people who are languishing are living people!

Notice the next few words in verse 5: "The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof"! Notice the earth still has inhabitants! The earth is defiled and ruined; God's judgments will come upon nation after nation until they shall be utterly destroyed and there will be massive loss of human life!

But there are survivors described in this passage of Scripture!

Notice verse 6: "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate"!

While Mrs. White did quote this portion only of the verses she selected, she went right over it, and then included the words "therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned," and placed a period where a comma actually appears in the Bible!

Note this well!

Turn to Isaiah 24:6. Notice that following the words "of the earth are burned" you see the words in your Bible "and a few men left"!

Why did Mrs. E.G. White deliberately omit those words-those very descriptive words which prove that there are living inhabitants left on the earth after this great destruction?

Notice verse 9: "They shall not drink wine...to them that drink it." Again, people being described!

Verse 10: "...every house is shut up, that no man may come in."

Notice verse 13! "When thus it shall be in the midst of the land [ehrets] among the people...."

Notice verse 14: "They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the Lord, they shall cry aloud from the sea."

Who? People who are left alive! Inhabitants of the earth!

Notice verse 17, and many other verses, where it is proved over and over again in this chapter that the earth is still inhabited!

"Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, o inhabitant of the earth"!

Do you need more proofs? All one need do is apply this very same experiment to the entirety of the "desolation of the earth" chapter in The Great Controversy and you will see example after example of this type of distortion, perversion, deliberate omission, and twisting of the sacred Word of God!

Surely, this represents one of the most blatant and deliberate examples of the wresting and perversion of sacred Scripture on record! However, there are many examples to be found in the writings of any number of religious leaders-and a serious, careful, sincere, and cautious student of the Word of God will do exactly as God says and compare what these teachers say with the Bible!

Now, what does the Bible really say about where the Millennium will be spent?

The Saints Shall Reign on Earth!

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Revelation 20:4).

The word Millennium is never mentioned in the Bible. It is merely an English word which means "one thousand years." For purposes of reference to this "one thousand years" spoken of in Revelation 20:4,5,6, and 7, many use the word Millennium.

And where will this "Millennium," or 1000 years, be spent?

It said the resurrected saints, together with those who are to meet Jesus Christ at His return in the air, are to "live and reign" with Him for one thousand years!

Where?

Notice!

"And they sung a new song, saying, thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by the blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

"And hast made us unto our God Kings and Priests: and we shall reign on the earth" (Revelation 5:10)!

Notice how God promises Jesus Christ will reign on the earth: "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth" (Jeremiah 23:5).

One of the most important scriptures which absolutely destroys Mrs. E.G. White's "desolate earth theory" is Isaiah 11!

Read this interesting, important chapter with your own eyes!

Notice some excerpts from it: "But with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay the wicked...The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the suckling child shall play on the hole of the asp and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den [the den of a poisonous snake], They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse [the Christ], which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles [nations on this earth!] seek; and His rest [the millennial reign of Christ] shall be glorious. And it shall come to pass, in that day [shortly after the Second Coming of Christ, and as the government of God is being set up on the earth], that the Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, which shall be left, from Assyria, from Egypt, and from Panthros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. And He shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel [remember those who were "scattered abroad" in Isaiah 24?] and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth...And there shall be an highway for the remnant of His people, which shall be left, from Assyria, like as it was to Israel in the day that he came out of the land of Egypt" (Isaiah 11, selected verses).

Read Ezekiel 36, how the waste places will be rebuilt.

Then read the magnificent prophecies of Isaiah 2 and Micah 4!

Both are concerned with the establishment of the Kingdom of God on this earth!

Notice: "And it shall come to pass, in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" (Isaiah 2:24).

Read the parallel account in Micah's prophecy where Micah says, "...nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and one shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it. For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever. In that day, saith the Lord, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted; And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever" (Micah 4:47).

Can anything be more plain?

Actually, these are but a few samples of the literally dozens of scriptures which absolutely prove that Jesus Christ of Nazareth is coming back down to this earth-that He is going to establish His great kingdom here, on this earth, and that He will rule over human, physical nations on this earth for the period of the Millennium-for 1000 years!

Are there lions, poisonous snakes, leopards, cows, and little children in heaven? Certainly no thinking, rational, right-minded person can read these many thunderous pronouncements from the Eternal God, from the words of sacred Scripture, and not be absolutely convinced and convicted that the kingdom is going to rule on this earth!

Read Zechariah 14:4! This plainly shows, "In that day," when Jesus Christ returns, His "feet shall stand on the mount of Olives"-that He is coming back exactly as the angelic messenger said He would (Acts 1:11), "in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven"!

When we read in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and the surrounding verses that those who are alive at the Second Coming of Christ will be "caught up together with them [the ones having just been resurrected] to meet the Lord in the air," we know that, true to the prophecy of Matthew 24:31, the angels will gather the redeemed from around the world; we know that they will be collected together to meet the returning, conquering Christ in the air (and the air is very much a part of this earth's environment, its immediate atmosphere), and continue on down to the Mount of Olives in that very same day!

It is here, on this earth, that Jesus Christ intends on cleaning house-solving the problems-ushering in an era of absolute joy!

Yes, the saints will reign on the earth!

Remember Jesus' admonition (Luke 21:36), and see that you are watching and praying always, that you might "be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

2006-10-31 23:16:28 · answer #10 · answered by His eyes are like flames 6 · 0 0

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