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Question

from my last question somebody said 'wide is the path that leadeth to destruction' and i agree with that Bible verse.

But when you're 'saved' do you change overnight? or how long does it take you to change fully and be permanently on the narrow path? in the Bible it says:

Hebrews 12:7
Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?

so we endure and are disciplined while we endure. it could take me like 50 years to break all my habits am i not 'saved' until then? Thank you :o}

Answer 1

no u are still saved. Take comfort in this verse.

Phillipians 1:6
being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

Answer 2

In 1 John 2:1-3 John says that he is writing so that we might not sin, but that if we do sin, we have one who will speak to the Father in our defense. Salvation comes by grace through faith, and it's not of works. We can't do enough good things to get on the "narrow path". All we can do is our best by the power of the Holy Spirit, and rest assured that Christ will speak in our defense on the rest. Does that make sense?

Answer 3

♥Nikki♥,
It totally sounds like you are confusing works with faith. You don't gradually becaome a better person, and so are saved. You learn to trust God more, and so you mature in faith. Your sin is already counted as washed away at the very moment your heart goes to God. You are counted as a ctizen of a Heavenly Kingdom, righteous throush Christ, an heir to the Throne of Christ by adoption, therefore; a child of God.

No amount of 'being good' will take place of the righteousness that God gives us.

So to 'endure hardship' is to remain in trust of God as you go through the trials. In the darkest of times will you trust in your bank account? someone else to get you out of it? or trust in God, and saying," I will yet praise Thee oh Lord, I will yet praise Thee." Acting in faith, rather than trusting in riches and things, and other people.

You are saved at the moment your heart turns to Him.

Answer 4

Being saved does not change us overnight....We go through a learning process, we learn God's way of living, being taught by the spirit.
Satan attacks us once we are saved...he's after our faith in God!
We start out as babes, drinking milk and mature to eating the meat of God's Word...only God knows how long this process takes.
As long as we live physically we are flesh beings, therefore, of the sinful nature...Glory be to God that He sent his son for our salvation, we repent for the remission of our sins (as long as you're physically alive you will sin)

Answer 5

Meow.

To be saved you have to start with a emotional change. I don't deal with emotions when it comes to being in good with the creator. Emotions can change. So as long as you feel good you believe in God. How ever, if life is going Sukey, then people tend too blame God and cures the world. So there fore I don't aspire to any deity be that would lead me to praise it for my good fortunes and cure it for my miss fortunes.

Answer 6

Nikki,

We often hear people, including pastors encourage people to make Jesus their Savior and Lord.

I contend that most can not do this at the same time. I have written about it and you can find the whole message in the first link below.

In part, I said we do not expect a baby to be born with a degree in his/her hand ready to go to work the next day...why do we expect it of our new Christians? Just as a new baby has to grown and learn who mom and dad are, a new Christian grows to learn the need to make Jesus their LORD. (Remember, becoming a Christian is referred to as ...the New Birth)

read below.

Answer 7

Think upon the Way of the Cross.
"I am the Way the Truth and the Life"
He chose the path of crucifixion. This is a difficult path, and on it, he fell 3 times.
If Christ himself fell on the way...well, go easy on yourself, k?

Answer 8

Your "spiritual" body changes instantly. Your personal walk in Christ will take time to grow.
You don't plant a seed and have a full grown tree the next day. Neither is your spiritual body.

The Process of Christlikeness
Romans 8:28-30
You’ve heard the saying, Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Well, in the case of man and God, it’s true. We please and honor the Lord when we try to be like Him. In Romans chapter eight, the apostle Paul lays out the process God uses to transform believers into reflections of Himself.
Starting in verse 29, Paul writes about those the Lord foreknew.. Foreknowledge involves more than simply seeing events in advance. It also includes bringing to pass whatever the Lord desires for His children’s lives. Foreknowledge specifically involves conforming believers to His image. God has a plan for which He sees the beginning, middle, and end.
Paul also wrote that all believers are predestined. God knew before Creation who would choose to receive salvation and who would reject it. All those who are saved are predestined to be formed in His image.
Verse 30 tells us that believers are also called. God places on the heart a desire to know Him. The call goes out to every person because it is not the Lord’s will that any should perish. However, few will act upon His offer and seek salvation (John 3:16; Matthew 7:14).
Paul also explains that Christians are justified. Whoever hears God’s call and receives salvation is declared no longer guilty. The stain of sin is wiped away.
And finally, we learn that those made holy by the blood of Christ are glorified. Living believers regard themselves as becoming like Jesus. But the Father sees them in their future imperishable bodies — as perfect reflections of Himself.
Humans think of time in segments. But God doesn’t operate that way. That’s why He can foreknow His children in their glory. And everything He allows into a Christian’s life is designed to shape him or her into a glorious reflection of Himself.


Servanthood: A Call to Growth
Ephesians 4:11-16
Spiritual Growth:
Kids love to show off their height. They eagerly anticipate being tall enough to do all the things that their short stature currently prevents. Many parents record and celebrate their children’s growth, following the old tradition of marking heights on a doorframe.
God the Father also measures His children’s growth — He delights in seeing us reach new levels of spiritual maturity so that we can accept greater responsibility.
Because a new believer is like a little child in faith, his or her kingdom tasks are, at first, light. God is beginning the transformation process that will grow a saved human being into the image of Christ. The call to servanthood requires us to do as the Lord Jesus did: act humbly on behalf of our fellow man. When we successfully minister where we are called, new opportunities will open up and offer fresh challenges.
Spiritual growth impacts our fruitfulness; the longer we’ve been believers, the greater our service should be. That does not mean tasks will be highly visible. Satan tries to convince people that some jobs are trivial, but the moment a believer falls for that lie, growth is stunted. God will promote those who put forth the best effort, no matter what the task is.
Every opportunity to bless others honors the Lord and increases a believer’s wisdom and stature before Him. Much of God’s work goes on where only He can see it. But He is always measuring His children for future service, gauging how much closer we are to His goal for us and what new task will draw us closer still.

Do Not Quench the Spirit
Ephesians 4:30
A campfire needs fuel to burn. Campers will add dry sticks and leaves to keep the flames high and hot, but when it is time to sleep, they will either starve the fire or forcibly put it out with water or dirt.
The Lord has lit a fire in every believer’s heart. We must learn to heed Paul’s warning against quenching the Spirit and tend the flame of faith with care (1 Thessalonians 5:19). A newly saved person is sealed forever as a child of God by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Nothing can expel Him from their being. But with our actions and attitudes, we can stifle His voice. As Christians, we are to walk by the Spirit, relying upon Him to give guidance and fulfill our needs. When we choose to sin, however, the Spirit of God is muffled and consequently unable to operate as He normally does. It is as if we throw cold water on our heart’s fire.
Saying no when the Spirit prompts us to obey is rebellion. If we do not prayerfully deal with the fallout from our disobedience, we begin to drift away from the Lord. Other interests pull our attention away from reading the Bible and talking with God. Church loses its appeal. Our hungering and thirsting after the things of Christ wanes so we cease to feed our soul. Our faith fire slowly starves into ash.
Believers must fuel their flame with spiritual “kindling” — prayer, reading God’s Word, sharing the Gospel, and serving others. A hot fire has cleansing power. When we confess our sins and practice these disciplines, our heart stays clean. And the power of God flows through a clean heart.

Good Q*.
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Answer 9

You have as long as you need. Jesus said if you believe on me you shall be saved. Father God knows everything about you and He decides when you are called to die. Don't worry just be thankful for grace and you will find it sufficient.

Answer 10

Sanctification is the word for being totally Christ like and it takes you the rest of your life to attain. No one is fully sanctified until they meet Jesus face to face.

Answer 11

Good question....

We are "sanctified" now but still in a process of "being made holy" as Paul opened his letter to the church in Corinth.....

It is kind of like the Israelites who were first saved by the lamb's blood they placed on their doors to save them from the plague....then afterward, they were liberated and made the desert journey to the promised land....

We too are saved...but there is a long journey ahead of us yet before we are holy like He is holy!