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2006-10-31 17:52:21 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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God=father son and holy ghost (spirit). it is very hard to realize that they are, in fact, one in the same. when God was on earth as Jesus he had to relate to rather primitive beings (for the most part). therefore he spoke in parables. he also related himself as the son of the father almighty as it was true theoretically. and after his Resurrection he withdrew from humanity and things would return to the way they were before the birth of the Christ. this he explained in telling his disciples that there would be a holy spirit here in his place. this was the natural order of things as God has always been near.

there is a place in the bible that explains that there is a time for everything and everything in its time. when you read the holy bible there is a lot of news to soak up. it is said that nobody understands the entire bible in a life time. but in reading it one can come to understand what is necessary for them....God always has a plan.

2006-10-31 18:35:08 · answer #1 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

At the time of Jesus of Nazareth, the Jews as most of the Monotheist religions of the time believed in ONE God. The Jews called it Yahweh (IT that has no name, no form etc.) or the Elohim from the names of the Creator of the two tribes that formed the state of Israel. Jesus believed in ONE God, not a Trinity.

The Jesus movement, for two hundred years, taught of ONE God, not a Trinity.

In the 2nd Century after the Birth of Jesus, the movement had been persecuted to the point of extinction. Along came Constantine, the Roman Emperor. The Roman empire was in decline and Constantine had established his capital at Byzantium and was always fighting wars with the many generals of his family who were still in Rome. He had his wife and son killed, probably for political reasons and according to the Pagan religion of the day, there was a price to pay for his crime.
The Jesus movement promised the "forgiveness" of sins so he became a follower of Jesus after having a dream where he won a battle under the sign of the Jesus Movement (the cross).

Constantine, being an emperor of Rome and as such a "god" could only serve and be forgiven by a "god". He organized the Council of Nicea where the Trinitarians pressured and supported by Constantine made Jesus part of the ONE God but now in "Three persons" or a Trinity: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the "HOLY GHOST". (no women). All Christians from that point on had to profess their belief in the: Nicene Creed pledging to believe in the "trinity of God" and the "god-hood" of Jesus the Christ.

Jesus of Nazareth, a humble man, would have turned over on the cross....

Such are the ways of Religion. Not the truth but a "series of political" pressures of times past creating the myths of today. Many people still believe the myths without thinking or questionning. The INTERNET will change all that and Religions will take their rightful place in HISTORY. The ONE will once again be "out of doors" and not in the Churches (the closets).

The churches (buildings and wealth) will be used to house and feed the poor, the sick and the weak and the disenfranchised as it should be.

Cyril Borg, the Cyborg

2006-10-31 18:15:16 · answer #2 · answered by cyril_borg 2 · 0 0

The best analogy to understanding the Trinity is the human family itself. The love between a man and a woman produces a child. It's explained in further detail here, the simplest and best explanation of the Trinity I have ever seen:
http://catholic-legate.com/articles/antitrinity.html
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2006-10-31 18:05:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Its a self invented concept to explain god and justify that Jesus was the son of GOd. God is ONly ONE!. not three in one. For the Quran warns the christians again saying "Dont say trinity, if you stop it will be better for you, for your Lord is one God".

Another instance " God niether begettes, nor is he begotten"

To begette is an animal act and can never be attributed to GoD. Even the bible makes clear references again and again that GOD is one. However the concept of trinity was introduced later. In the Revised standard version of the BIBLE the (RSV) which was backed up by 73 christian scholars of the highest emeinece, the quotaion reffered in the bible saying that " for their are three that bear record in heaven, the father the son and the holy spirt" was termed as an interpolation and fabrication by christian scholars since these verse was not their in the most ancient manuscripts. Trust me the muslims did not bribe these scholars. Do some research brothers and open your eyes to the truth. God is only ONE, pure from begetting sons or daughters. He jus can create them just by thinking, He does not need to begeett as animals do.

2006-10-31 18:30:37 · answer #4 · answered by Mustafa rOcKs 2 · 0 0

God exists and reveals him self in three perfectly united persons,
the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, each with a different function, but we worship one God.

2006-10-31 18:05:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is the "Three-in-one" relationship between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.....you might imagine it like water, which is made up of three parts: 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen....yet if you look at water, you cannot really see where the separation occurs...

Here are some good Scriptural references:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9Jesus answered: "Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. (John 14)

Jesus said, 30 "I and the Father are one."
31Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him,
32but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’?
35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken--
36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
37Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.
38But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." (John 10)

44Then Jesus cried out, "When a man believes in me, he does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me.
45When he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me.
46I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.
47"As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it.
48There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day.
49For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it.
50I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say." (John 12)

2006-10-31 17:58:53 · answer #6 · answered by whitehorse456 5 · 0 0

i dont believe in trinity which is a very complicated idea. i beleive in only God who is the creature of all the universe and beyond it.

2006-10-31 17:58:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

the reason that it is hard to understand is because it is a thing of God.If it was easy to understand then it would be a thing that man made up. So you can see the power of God as you try to grasp hold of the thoughts of God

2006-10-31 18:00:12 · answer #8 · answered by swami242 3 · 0 0

Its a Pagan based Myth that was whole-heartedly adopted by Christendom during or around the year 250 A.D. Sometime around the Council of Nicea.

Again, PAGAN BASED, LOOK IT UP!

2006-10-31 17:55:47 · answer #9 · answered by AdamKadmon 7 · 0 2

Three gods in one god instead of One True God. It's not Biblical. Trinity was decided upon sun worhippers in the Nicean crede three hundred years after Jesus died.

"The doctrine is not taught explicitly in the New Testament, where the word God almost invariably refers to the Father" -- MS Encarta 99

"The word itself does not occur in the Bible...The explicit formula was thus formulated in the post-biblical period, although the early stages of its development can be seen in the NT. Attempts to trace the origin still earlier (to the Old Testament literature) cannot be supported by historical-critical scholarship, and these attempts must be understood as retrospective interpretations of this earlier corpus of Scripture in the light of later theological developments." The Harper Collins Study Bible Dictionary

"We are judged to be heretics because we can no longer believe in essence, person, nature, incarnation, as they want us to believe. If these things are necessary for salvation, it is certain that no poor peasant Christian be saved, because he could never understand them in all his life." -- Francis David (1510-79)

Catholic theologian Hans Küng in Christianity and the World Religions, "Even well-informed Muslims simply cannot follow, as the Jews thus far have likewise failed to grasp, the idea of the Trinity . . . The distinctions made by the doctrine of the Trinity between one God and three hypostases do not satisfy Muslims, who are confused, rather than enlightened, by theological terms derived from Syriac, Greek, and Latin. Muslims find it all a word game . . . Why should anyone want to add anything to the notion of God's oneness and uniqueness that can only dilute or nullify that oneness and uniqueness?"

"The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." -- The Illustrated Bible Dictionary

The Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180 . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian." However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the Trinity. The Catholic work Trinitas - A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for example, notes that some of Tertullian's words were later used by others to describe the Trinity. But then it states: "But hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for he does not apply the words to Trinitarian theology."

The New Encyclopedia Britannica: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament."

Yale University Professor E. Washburn Hopkins: "To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it." -- Origin and Evolution of Religion.

Tom Harpur states, "As early as the 8th century, the Theologian St. John of Damascus frankly admitted what every modern critical scholar of the NT now realizes: that neither the Doctrine of the Trinity nor that of the 2 natures of Jesus Christ is explicitly set out in scripture. In fact, if you take the record as it is and avoid reading back into it the dogmatic definitions of a later age, you cannot find what is traditionally regarded as orthodox Christianity in the Bible at all." -- For Christ's Sake.

Historian Arthur Weigall: "Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord." -- The Paganism in Our Christianity

The New Encyclopedia Britannica: "Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' -- Deut. 6:4
. . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since." -- Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126. (1976)

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

The Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicaea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching." -- (1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

The Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches . . . This Greek philosopher's [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions." -- (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

"The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical belief. The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of "person" and "nature: which are Gk philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The Trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as "essence" and "substance" were erroneously applied to God by some theologians." Dictionary of the Bible by John L. McKenzie, S.J. p. 899

Regarding the Nicene Council and those that followed, Hans Kung in Christianity says, "The councilor decisions plunged Christianity into undreamed-of theological confusions with constant entanglements in church politics. They produced splits and sparked off a persecution of heretics unique in the history of religion. This is what Christianity became as it changed its nature from a persecuted minority to a majority persecuting others."

"Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything." -- Robert A. Heinlein

2006-10-31 17:57:26 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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