I agree.
The first thing that someone should be considering is whether the idea of sin is actually real.
If God is supposed to be perfect how could She have made anything or anyone that wasn't perfect.
Think about it. The idea of sin assumes certain things about God that seem highly unlikely.
First it assumes a God who is too incompetent to organize a simple educational field excursion and figure out a way to get all of the students home safely.
How likely is this that God would not be smart enough to come up with a plan for our salvation that is going to work?
It also assumes that God must have created us imperfect if we are sinners.
One might assume that God would be able to create someone perfect each and every time if he chose to. Assuming God is capable of this, then it follows logically that we must be perfect creations if we are actually creations of this perfect God.
Unless of course you are saying that God chose to create us imperfect.
If God created us imperfect then anything that may go wrong is Gods fault, not ours. This seems a bit illogical at best so I think that we need to assume that What God creates would have to be perfect.
If this is the case and Gods creations are perfect, then nothing that we can do could change what God created perfect and make it imperfect unless we think that we are more powerful than God is.
How likely is it that we the creation could be more powerful than the creator. I personally find this idea somewhat amusing, and a bit absurd.
Religion tells us that God is perfect. If this is true then it could hardly be logically for Gods creations to be considered to be anything less than perfect.
If this is the case and we are perfect creations of a perfect God then Nothing that we can ever do could possibly change this perfection that God willed, unless we were so powerful that our choices could override and change the will of God.
How likely is that????
Think about it.
The idea of sin is simple nonsense; a lie made up about God by religion.
Love and blessings
don
Source --- Course in miracles
2006-10-31 13:23:43
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Robots are perfect(unless they are flawed). Okay that is bad logic, but it feeds into what I am going to say.
Free will gives us that choice to be perfect. Imagine if every time you tried to something wrong you got a little shock from God's invisible fence. Or even better imagine that you couldnt do anything wrong, or imorral and infact you had no concept of what immoral even was.
That is how God created man. To be ignorant of the immoral. The only wrong thing that man (adam and eve) even knew was that you couldnt eat a certain fruit. God left us as free beings and we often choose to be imperfect.
2006-10-31 13:23:04
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answer #2
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answered by Zach 3
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Because the bible and church was created by flawed people to strike fear in the hearts of people with open minds, to make them think that exercising their free will and educated minds will cause them to go to hell.
When i was growing up as a christian i always questioned why the sin tree that adam and eve shouldn't have eaten from was put there in the first place, as its inevitable (our human nature is curious) that SOMEONE would have eaten from it eventually.And if God knows everything, why would he have allowed that situation. It, for me, is liking putting a poisened marshmellow in the middle of a room but telling a child NEVER to eat it! Well, ofcourse the child will eventually! If the bible is true (and I dont think it is) then someone like myself, who isnt a bad or evil person will go to hell for the sole reason of not believing a book or a God that doesnt make sense to me. So to save myself from hell i would have to live a lifestyle that isn't true to me because I live in fear of eternal damnation.......hmmmm.
2006-10-31 13:26:05
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answered by Anonymous
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He created Adam and Eve first he placed them in the garden of Eden he told them eat of all the trees except the apple tree. Eve didn't listen basically so he punished them by making them imperfect to put it short and simple they were perfect at first until Eve messed up
You need to read the bible if your not into reading talk to a preacher or someone who is well versed in the bible
Just in case you have not been told MAN was Created in the Likeness of GOD. NOW that tells me that God is male not female
2006-10-31 13:23:56
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answered by The gr8t alien 5
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99.9% of all the species that ever existed are extinct-We are still a very young species. God as a him or her has nothing to do with it.God is an unnamable force to incomprehensible for us to understand. I doubt if we will live very long as a species.The dinosaurs ruled for over 100 million years. If the 4 billion years of earth was compressed in 24 hours we would occupy about 2 seconds.
2006-10-31 13:27:29
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answered by super stud 4
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God created man and angels perfect, but with free will... meaning they could choose to be imperfect. Man and many angels chose imperfection.
2006-10-31 13:20:28
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answered by impossble_dream 6
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Q: >>>Ok... so let me get this straight, God creates man to be tested and judged but why would god create something purposely flawed just too test it? <<<
God does not create anything flawed, if then something is created that appears to us as Flawed, it is because we deem that something as flawed, but God made it exactly as He desired, even though we think it is flawed. Adam and Eve were made by God EXACTLY how God wanted us to be made, it was mans own doing to disobey his creator becoming flawed.
If i make my son a car, perfect without blemish, runs like a top, in exccelent condition, and i give him a users manual to operate and maintain his new car, yet he chooses to neglect to put oil in the car, does not tune up the car, does not do what the manual instructs to do to maintain the car. THE CAR WILL BECOME JUNK, Not because of how i made it, but because of how he handled it.
A person born blind, is not borned flawed. A person who is born deformed is not borned flawed. A person who is born mentally challenged is not borned flawed. A person who is born attracted to the same sex is not borned flawed. They are made exactly as God desired them to be made.
Q: >>> Maybe he didn’t directly make the act but he directly made Sin witch is responsible for it all. <<<
You do error in saying God made sin. For God did not create sin, sin was born in the angel Lucifer ( greed ) God never created sin. However he does allow satan to tempt us to do evil, and it is not His desire that we obey satan, but to obey HIM, this then is the test. He only allows satan to tempt us to see what choices we make, whether we choose to sin and obey satan or not to sin and obey God. Therefore God allows satan to freely roam the earth tempting all that he comes in contact with, in allowing this, it weeds out ( figuratively speaking ) those who do not Truly desire to go to Heaven, because they are unwilling to cease from their sins. Again God did not Create Sin.
Q: >>> And secondly why would god make us in the first place if he is perfect, he would have no desire to make us. <<<
God is perfect, however the angels that were in Heaven were not. Lucifer betrayed God and convinced 1/3 of all the angels of Heaven to join him to overthrow God. You see God is perfect but the angels are not. You see, Lucifer made his choice who he wanted to follow ( himself ) and 1/3 of the angels made their choice as well ( to follow Lucifer ) therefore it stands to reason, that the other 2/3 of the angels need to be tested, to see who they desire to follow, either the ways of satan ( sin ) or the ways of God ( righteousness ), therefore here we are to be tested to see who we choose to follow.
In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
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2006-10-31 15:47:25
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answered by DiscipleDave 2
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The only alternative would be to make us God. God alone is perfect. Matter is not perfect.
2006-10-31 13:37:52
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answered by PaulCyp 7
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Good Question
2006-10-31 13:18:52
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answered by Anonymous
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