Without ORIGINAL SIN is there any need for a CHRIST?

Question

Dump all the blame on EVE and the DEVIL! Surely the concept of Original Sin is antiquated and insulting to human intelligence.

Answer 1

Peace be with you,

As a muslim, we do not beleive in original sin. You are responsible for your own actions and have free choice. It is the choices in life we will be judged on on The Day of Judgement. Jesus (peace be upon him) is a Teacher, a Prophet and as the messiah he will return with the final warning t help lead humanity to the correct path of GOD. He is our Saviour, but has not saved us yet. Only GOD can forgive our sins, not Prophets. Adam and Eve (peace be upon them) made a choice, but that does not mean we are accoutnable for their actions. How could we be accoutnable for somehting someone else did? If I was there and did not warn them, I would be accountable for not speaking up, but obviously I was not there and that was GOD's plan. They had free choice, used it, and fell into the tempation trap of Satan. The same test we are all doing everyday.

Peace

Answer 2

Inside the human mind are numerous personalities attempting to get out. Some we've created as we move along, and some are from the past lives we've all experienced. All of this, going all the way back to the fires of creation are here inside us in some form.

Inside each cell is our mitochondria, these can trace their ancestry back to Eve, the primal mother of humanity. Through this, the DNA, the physical manifestation of the Akashic record, we can feel the echoes of all that has been, and from this, the animalistic side of man still roars.

This is the source of the "Original Sin", that all the animal that has ever been in our ancestry, still makes it's influence felt, and that is the original sin that must be overcome.

The Christ Meme, or Archetype, is that ever straining quest to overcome the Beast, to subjugate the Robotic, and to ascend into the fullness of Christ Consciousness.

Answer 3

there's a part of the Easter liturgy that says,

Oh happy fault!
O necessary sin of Adam!
That won for us so great a redeemer!

(basically saying that original sin brought us Christ, so it's not all bad. However, there is a school of thought, particularly in the Franciscan tradition, that says that the incarnation was too wonderful to come about as a result of man's sin, and God had planned to be among us as a sign of His love for us, even had we not sinned.)

I understand that you just want to bash Christianity, but some other people might read an answer...

God bless you

Answer 4

Original Sin as we understand it began with Eve, Adam, and the devil.
But even if Eve had resisted the serpent's sales pitch, someone else would eventually committed the first sin. Free will gives every person the capability of disobedience to God.

Mankind would still need a Savior.

Answer 5

Pointing to the consciousness of sin, Hideo Odagiri, literary critic and professor emeritus at Hosei University in Tokyo, Japan, said, as quoted in the Asahi Shimbun newspaper: “I cannot blot out the vivid recollections I have of a consciousness of sins, such as the nasty egotism that exists in a child, shameful jealousy, betrayal behind a person’s back. This consciousness was branded on my mind when I was in elementary school and still torments me.” Have you ever experienced such feelings? Do you have an inner voice that condemns you if you do something that you know is wrong? Perhaps no crime has been committed, but an uncomfortable feeling lingers and weighs heavily on your mind. This is your conscience working, and the Bible refers to it in the following passage: “Whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused.” (Romans 2:14, 15) Yes, by nature most people feel disturbed by such acts as adultery, stealing, and lying. Their conscience is testifying to sin.

However, when the voice of conscience is repeatedly ignored, it no longer serves as a safe guide. It can become insensitive and defiled. (Titus 1:15) A sensitivity to what is bad is lost. In fact, today most people’s conscience is dead as far as sin is concerned.

Yes we do need Christ.

Answer 6

Adam and Eve's transgression (notice I didn't say sin) was the reason for God's Plan of Salvation and Christ's Atonement for mankind.

We who followed our first parents are not condemned in sin, but are accountable only to the sins we commit in mortality. The Lord had forgiven Adam and Eve of their transgression (Moses 6: 53, Pearl of Great Price).

Answer 7

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Indeed, the concept of law imputing sin and death for the hell of it waxeth old, in fact so old it's ready to vanish: Heb 8:13.

Where and when no law, there and then no sin: Rom 4:15; 5:13. And who gave the law? Moses: Jn 1:17. So if you're here, on earth, then you obviously fell for and into law law hands of God on high. Pray tell where from? From grace above: Gal 5:4. Hence the need for Christ: the end of the law: Saviour of the world.

Seems to me we'll never be rid of sin, till we all are one flush the law as dung. For law is not only the source of sin, but also the strength of sin's death sting: 1Corinthians 15:56; James 1:15. And the Bible is clear that law can NEVER make the comers thereunto perfect, NOR ever purge the conscience of sin... not purged gives place to death, followed by hell, the hell of endless abuse and forgiveness. Flush law and there's no more abuse nor anything to forgive. For the reason for forgive them is they know not. So let's change it to know.

Know the truth makes you free of believe every spirit.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Answer 8

The original sin thing is yet another example of Christians hijacking a bit of Jewish tradition and mutilating it into something that suits their own agenda. "Judeo-Christian" is just Christians pretending that they're not alone in their beliefs.

The story in Bereshit (Genesis) is far more interesting. It's about eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil -- 'they have become like us' is what G-d says. What does that mean? One interpretation is that A & E were growing up, moving from the 'innocence' of childhood into maturity and understanding.

Answer 9

Good question.
But mankind 6000 years ago are not like mankind today.
The Bible is still a Holy Book and we should understand it as explained by the following Messengers of God through their Holy Books.
Mankind need many Holy Books because they could not understand completely the Plan of God in a limited time. The successive Messengers of the One True God raise them up step by step till the end without end.

Answer 10

No. Ro. 5:12 tells us that we inherited sin from our forefather Adam. Adam passed on sickness, old age and death to his offspring. Jesus Christ came to earth to die and by back what Adam lost--everlasting life on a paradise earth. If Adam had not sinned, there would have been no need for a savior.