Is "lack of evidence" good enough for Intelligent Design?

Question

It seems that alot of creationists use the argument that "since science hasn't explained it all yet, God MUST be the only alternative". Isn't that a little shortsited?

Just because science can't explain where stuff came from is "GOD" a better answer?

I'd love to hear of REAL evidence for intelligent design. Like God's hidden signature on a painting or something...

Wow, not one real answer showing how Intelligent design is even a scientific pursuit. This is why you lose in court. You can't use the word Faith in a science class!!!!!!

Answer 1

There isn't any. It's called faith.

Answer 2

Since the Universe of the Multiverse is dynamic and always in motion, science will always be trying to "catch up". So also, creationists will always have a gap in which to "rationalize" their "belief" or "dogmas".

If motion is a true reality and nothing can stand still, then the idea of a dogma or a truth "forever" be it a scietific truth or a religious truth are not possible. What we think is true this moment has to be open to change or transformation at the next moment. If we live in the material, we have more time to change or transform, if we live in the "energy" the time is less and if we live in the spirit, we have no time but are in a constant state of "flux" or are a "spirit". A spirit can pass through walls much as the energy of sound can pass through walls. Light passed through solid glass and sound is sometimes stopped by glass.

The dogmas from both sides of the issue is what has to stop. Science is becoming the "new religion" with a "science based" set of laws and principles that are defended too stringently. They are not as stringent as religious dogmas but are not "easy enough to move. The dogmas in science are tied to access to the technology and that is where the "religion" of science gets into protecting its "turf".

I continue to believe that the word GOD is at the root of the Problem. The jews don't call their Creator "God" but Yahweh and Elohim. The Muslims call IT Allah. The word GOD as a Male, Person is just bad theology that creates flawed philosophy and corrupt psychology and eventually corrupt individuals in a corrupt and divided society. I prefer to use the numeric ONE as it is numeric (scientific), non-gender based, is neutral. and is the opposite in composition from the word GOD. The word God has two finite-sounding consonnants (representing the material), enclosing one open or infinite-sounding vowel (representing the spirit). The word ONE has two open or infinite-sounding vowels enclosing the close-sounding consonnant for a more UNITING and Dynamic paradigm. Closed sounds are more Dogmatic and open sounds are more merging and can be made to go louder and softer to infinity without stopping like a consonnant.

The ONE is Intelligent. Since the ONE creates from ITSELF, It's design, the Universe of the Multiverse is intelligent also. Intelligence does not leave the creation at the galaxy, star, planet stage and re-enter the equation at man or the monkey. Intelligence is always there, even at the "crystal" stage. Now is self consciousness there and can the crystal ask itself the questions that we as "carbon based" entities can ask? No but intelligence is not "one dimensional". The example of the human body is a good one. Do the atoms or molecules or the cells that make up the liver know about the "consciousness" that it is a part of? One could say that consciousness is peculiar to a certain amount of complex arrangement of certain number of neurons.

But "intelligence" is not that. Intelligence can be in latent or potential form much as biological life can be in a dormant stage for millenia and emerge to form a "conscious" carbon based entity.

ONE says to Cyborg that the ONE is Intelligent and the ALL, (ONE's creation) is also intelligent in all of its diversity even at the hydrogen atom, it's proton, neutron, quark and string levels. Not all is conscious to the point of asking the question of the intellectual "homo sapiens".

So the Cyborg is a believer in ONE or UNITY or the SINGULARITY, or the FORCE, the SOURCE etc...
ONE is the easiest.. One is from the myth of Atlantis also. Where the children of the Law of ONE tried to stop the experiments with "crystals" that cause the downfall of the continent of Atlantis. We are again at the "crystal" age.

Cyril Borg, the Cyborg

Answer 3

The entire body of scientific evidence is used for Intelligent Design. There is no difference at all in the body of evidence so there is no "Lack of Evidence" as you suppose. The only difference between your theory and ID is intelligence. Do you claim a "lack of intelligence" in cosmic design? The signature is the perfect mathematically observable structure of the universe. Logically speaking then, an origin of order brings order and an origin of chaos brings chaos. This is logical and will stand to all reason. Do you suppose otherwise?

Answer 4

There just simply isn't any EVIDENCE. Science can't explain everything, that doesn't give CREATIONISM any more credibility. GOD is purely FAITH based, and that's all. If the creationists feel like they have to justify their belief then isn't it really they who lack faith? It sounds like they are trying to convince themselves of this absurdity called FAITH. GOD is a MANMADE folk tale to justify their existence and their eventual DEATH. Science doesn't have all the answers, but then again never has it proclaimed to have all the answers, but at least they continue to seek answers in stead of taking the easy "GOD" route. It's real damn easy to say god made this and that, but aren't you interested in "HOW HE DID THAT?" Even if there was a god, there is some kind of physical, scientific process that he would have to make in order to create anything. God would not be magical, but he would rely on his infinite knowledge of SCIENCE in order to create anything. He couldn't just say "here is man", he would have to know exactly how to make DNA. Creating life is a process, not magic. If god does exist, he is THE ULTIMATE SCIENTIST, THE BEGGINING OF EVOLUTION. But that's just my opinion, not the opinion of a 2000 year old book.

Answer 5

Intelligent design takes just as much faith as evolution does. The scientific record has many holes and unexplained gaps. Even if there were a signature of God somewhere science would decry it as a scam/hoax. It impossible to logically prove something that is taken on faith. No answer would satisfy someone who doesn't want to believe.

Answer 6

Actually, many scientists have concluded that there must be design underlying the immense complexity and intricacy of the universe. And I don't just mean fundamentalist fanatics. However, for most scientists this purely logical conclusion is not an obstacle to the practice of science. The fact that the universe had a designer and a creator doesn't stand in the way of exploring the natural processes that occur in the universe, whether it be gravity, continental drift, biological evolution, photosynthesis, or any valid area of scientific investigation.

Answer 7

science and more so scientists, are dead set against ANYTHING godly, with the exception of darwin & albert einstein who both spent their life, & better part of scientific careers looking at all the wonder God created.

most non secular scientists refused to believe in any word or story from the bible. then in the 1980s many so called fables labled so by non believing scifi ppl. were shown by scientific evidence, and by those in disbelif allowed to put findings to their own brand of tests. however keep in mind, it is no ones responsibility to prove to you, or to another. God judges the individual.

if you choose not to believe the world, was made by God. can you believe a simple can of coke was created by accident or by science w/o a creative designer? you think about which all has to take place, regardless of timelines.

Answer 8

If I create something from nothing I tap into my experience for inspiration. I allow it to flow from my being, my thoughts, who I am and what I have become. To me it is one of many situations of not knowing limited by my thinking or not thinking outside my box of self limiting "lack of intelligent" mind. My mind seems to be the factor with which appears along with others to find a defining postion that declares I am "right" or we are "right" in our conclusion. If that were so we would conclude God must be the only alternative. I would like to think those Human "Beings" that understand this self limiting thought, would strive to stretch and allow themselves to "be" beyond a place of comfort, conformity, common belief, conventionality and the norm for an intelligence to surface and allow God to flow through oneself. There are breakthroughs every moment of the day that most of us may or may not ever hear about.
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Answer 9

The ID scientists use a perverted form of the scientific method that involves forming a conclusion and then finding evidence to support that conclusion. This is a horrible way to persue scientific research because it excludes any other conclusions that may better explain the data...

They also love to use the logical fallacy known as faulty either/or reasoning: Either we evolved or God created us. For some reason they seem to think that disproving evolution proves creationism....

Answer 10

wow. hard evidence about intelligent design. First off, I'm a creationist, but I have to go along with you on that one. the logic on that is like a circle. sort of like, just because there are empty
peanut butter cups all around my desk, doesn't mean I ate them.

kinda fuzzy.

I guess you heard the one about what if i showed you my really cool watch, and you said, "nice, where'd you get it?" and I say, umm, it just happened. then you say, "Idiot. there are a zillon parts in there, anyone but you can see it took intelliegent design. sort of like the stars and planets all revolving around the sun, and even the galaxies, all spinning like tops.

you could look at your own body. the way all those blood cells do their thing, or the way your brain fires all those electrical synapses and stuff like that. or the way a baby grows in the womb. You could say, aww, that stuff just happened.

but it didn't. probably lots of other examples but maybe it depends upon you. if you are determined to cross against traffic cuz you say, "I don[t believe in traffic, or if you jump off a cliff and say, phooey, i don't believe in gravity.

you could be very strong in your beliefs, but also very flat.

Yeah, maybe those were lame examples cuz even people who don't believe in God know there is gravity. sorry.

Science cannot explain God. you are right. But he's pretty big, and men, compared to him are really sorta small. yeah, I'm bigger than a spider. glad of that. I can squish him.

If you really need evidence. hard scientific evidence, maybe you'll find it, maybe not. if you're really looking for God He's not far. nothing fancy. just ask him, "God, if you're really please show me. if he is, he may send you a scientist with great proofs. or he might just show you a flower or sunset.

who knows? but I bet if you asked him you would.

peace out hungry for evidence girl.

Im hungry for natchos.

frankie chocolate

Answer 11

Humans have not been around long enough to explain everything. We are but just a small part of a very large universe and to think we know it all is quite arrogant. We've only been in a technological age for about 100 to 150 years or so, which is so insignificant when you step back and look at the big picture that things have been around for trillions of years.