A dog breeder who "floods" her litters with non AKC dogs, has pix of beautiful dogs, and you buy one in the pix, and another one is sent, and have you thinking that you are getting championship blood for your dogs, and then you get one that is NOTHING like the pix she sent to you, and said you were getting! The puppy in the long run has suffered, and you have also, you trusted these people, how do you warn others of the flim flam?
2006-10-31
06:53:25
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This breeder is in Missouri, sells about 5 different breeds, all supposed to be AKC. But as a former breeder, what are the chances ALL of your females (of just one breed) delivering within 4-9 days of each other?Her ads are on "nextdaypets" and about 4 other sites. On these other sites, she has "JUMPED" the price by $1200. Making the total cost about $1600. When you see the puppies, they look "brow-beaten and so SAD!" We got taken, but got our money back finally, but no apoligy from her, it was like, "So?" I hope everyone "CHECKS OUT" every breeder, this is the electronic age, I wish we had checked futher on her! In the little town she is in, she is related or knows everyone it seems, and NO ONE CARES!
2006-10-31
07:10:34 ·
update #1
She is in Missouri, I live in Florida. The puppy found a good home, but now she has more puppies for sale of this breed, all supposed to be AKC. You just can't have that many puppies at any ONE time! She sells about 4-6 different breeds according to her website, and have horses also. the puppy that was sent, her ears were cropped, and they looked like they had been done by a non Vet. Buyers beware of this Missouri breeder. Heaven help the puppies, all of them! If this is a puppy mill, she will be shutdown legally.
2006-10-31
07:21:40 ·
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She claims to be AKC, I've checked and she does have some AKC dogs, but she changes her ads so much, like dates of litters, how many in the litter, and if you question her about it, she cuts off conversation with you. One more thing, as a former breeder of AKC dogs, I still have pix from ALL of my litters with updates, she claims, she just doesn't have any pix of all her pups, maybe 3 pix and thats it! Her website looks good, impressive, thats what got our eye, but it seems angelguardiandobermans.com doesn't ring true. If anyone seeks to buy, CHECK OUT the breeder completly! Your puppy's happiness DEPENDS on it!
2006-10-31
07:45:25 ·
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I've learned my lesson the hard way also! Dealing with a breeder that has several litters at one time, or one right after another should send up a red flag. One who keeps blowing off questions and claiming she doesn't recall me asking (Ronald Regan-itis : "I think I don't remember"). After receive "A" puppy that obviously wasn't the one offered for sale, I questioned it. I ended up sending the pup back, and got a FULL REFUND. Unfortunately, the future for that pup is unknown. I don't know if any of you can email me through this site or not, but if you can and would like to see a prime example of "Bait & Switch", email me I'll be glad to share photos.
The AKC, State's Animal Alliance, State Agriculture Dept, SPCA, anyone I can think of either has been or will be notified.
In the past I have had GREAT success working with a breeder from Texas (via the internet), so I do not agree with with MJ. Not all breeders are unethical and out to line their pockets. And yes, I'd gladly pay more for a healthy, quality bred pup!
2006-10-31 12:01:34
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answered by Pam 6
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What do you think AKC is going to do? Commercial breeders are AKCs bread and butter (and expensive Madison Ave offices). AKC is about the money, NOT "about the dogs".
If you do not want to buy a puppy from a crappy breeder, don't buy one. If someone is fool enough to buy a puppy online from someone they don't know, then live and learn!
You don't need to warn anyone. JQP just needs to use their brain and take responsability for their own stupid decisions. People will spend HOURS researching what car to buy, but when buying a living, breathing puppy they put almost no thought at all into the decision. Shouldn't a puppy be just as important a purchase as a refrigerator?
If all commercial breeders were shut down, where do you all think the pet buying public would get PB puppies? From show breeders who are 5% of all AKC registrations? LOL! You WOULDN'T! You would either have to spend BIG money or buy some poor sickly smuggled thing bred in a country with no abuse/neglect laws. If you don't believe this, take a look at LA. Make breeding next to impossible and then scratch your heads wondering why smuggled sickly Mexican puppies are a problem. Well, duh.
2006-10-31 21:28:28
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answered by whpptwmn 5
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By all means, report her to all governing bodies , the Better Business Bureau, The AKC, SPCA, anyone else you can think of. Puppy mills should be put out of circulation. In the mean time, care for that puppy or find it a good home and consider yourself a rescuer instead of "had". But you have been had. Check all references for "breeders". If there are none, don't do business.
2006-10-31 15:06:06
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answered by character 5
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# Take her to court and get a ruling. Keep all advertisements and anything you can on her fraud that is in the written form. Collect evidence from other buyers of her litters.
#2 Contact the newspaper in your area, several would be better and tell your story and what your court case outcome was.
#3 Contact the Better Business Bureau and ASPCA in your area. Have the ASPCA investigate her. Show all evidence against her and also report all wrongs you can gather and give a copy to the Better Business Bureau.
#4 Contact a news station, hopefully several, and tell the whole story, including all facts, research and complaints from other individuals. Have others to tell their story in person to the news media.
#5 Post your findings on the websites of all breeds she is selling and the complaints and newspaper articles, news reports, etc. etc.
#6 Contact the attorney general in your state.
#7 Report her to the AKC. You may have to report her several times, and give them copies of all evidence.
I know this sounds like alot but if you want her out of fraudulent business of flooding her litters and taking advantage of others good faith, you have to be diligent. Don't give up. Good for you, someone who cares...
2006-10-31 15:17:40
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answered by Just me 4
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Since this person is not a member of the AKC, you could try reporting her to your local animal welfare agency...SPCA, Humane Society, etc.
In Pennsylvania, the State Department of Agriculture has authority over dog breeders. I don't know what it is in your state, but you could start with a call to a shelter...they could tell you where to report her. If the conditions are as bad as you say, that breeder will face animal cruelty and neglect charges, the breeding stock will be seized and rehomed by an animal welfare agency, and she will be court ordered to never breed animals again in your State.
2006-10-31 15:03:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Is this a neighbor?
Always warn people not to purchase a pet online!!! Most of them are scams.
Unfortunately most dogs in petstores are not what the papers say either. AKC papers are the easiest to forge and many breeders have had theirs revoked but continue to sell puppies.
I have a little terrier that was being used to breed and selling the babies to petstores. We got her and her babies found great homes and nw she is spayed looking for her forever home but she is really just a mutt of terrier mix. A breeder was making money just keeping her pregnant and ignorant petstore owners wanting to make a buck bought them and sold them to everyday patrons too stupid to realize the right way to find a pet.
2006-10-31 15:00:19
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answered by Anonymous
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You need to contact the Better Business Bureau
in the area where she lives. Be careful of how you place info about her over the net because she can sue you. Just make sure you can back up what you say with vet bills, records, etc. Good luck. I know there are a lot of unscrupous breeders out there and they make all breeders look bad.
2006-10-31 15:02:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Call the local humane society (yours and wherever she is from), the ASPCA, write a letter to the editor of your paper, contact the AKC, whatever breed of dog it was search for the clubs for that breed or rescues and inform them. Tell everyone you can think of!!! If you have proof of any criminal activity contact the police., so she may possibly have her animals taken away! Please take good care of the dog anyway! I know you got scammed, but it is not the dogs fault! Do you have a website address for her?
May I ask, what breed of dogs? Also, send a report to the websites.
2006-10-31 14:58:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Contact the field agents with the AKC. Call Russell Dowell. They are called Executive Feild Agents with the AKC. Russells phone number is 919-816-3600 ext. 4456. He has all of Indiana, Illinois, part of Michigan and Ohio, but he can get you in touch with the agent in charge of that part of the country. Get as many people as possible to make complaints to them about this kennel. She has to make a goof sooner or later if she regsiters with the AKC and that many different breeds.
2006-10-31 17:07:42
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answered by bear 2 zealand © 6
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There are usually kennel clubs that she can be reported to. I live in PA and there are several kennel clubs to report things to or try check with AKC about options. We had a pet store locally that was selling dogs from puppy mills and they were all sickly and they got taken to court and were no longer allowed to sell dogs and ending up closing all of their stores in addition to repaying their customers. I would try a local search about puppy mills.
2006-10-31 15:25:24
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answered by jnferlw 1
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