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then why did he create such sinful humans (needing ultimate destruction such as the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and all those who died in the great flood? When to do so would be to condemn them with full knowledge as to how they would act-free will being a nonfactor because an omnipotent God knows how his subjects will react, regardless of free will? Not trying to dispell religion, just seeking answers.

2006-10-31 05:56:35 · 12 answers · asked by Darth Plagueis 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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No god or goddess is all knowing, all powerful, or everywhere at once. It goes beyond the laws of physics, which are of course inmutable.

This especially goes for the hateful pile of sh*t Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship.

2006-10-31 06:05:05 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There is a good answer here, but let me go a little deeper.

God did not create sin because sin in itself is not a substance. Good is a substance and sin is the privation of that substance. It is like rust on a car or rot on a tree; it does not have its own mass, it is just the breakdown and destruction of another mass (namely good). Because God did not create sin, it cannot be attributed to Him that it entered. God knew that it would, and He allowed for it to enter, but ultimately He is neither the author, nor the cause of its entry.

Regarding those in Sodom and Gomorrah and the antidelluvians, God did not condemn them to death by creating them. He does not will that any should perish (a New Testament concept applicable to the dispensations of the Old Testament, in this case the dispensation of conscience). There were righteous men in the world who were communicating a righteous message. Lot and his wife lived in Sodom; Noah built an ark for decades. The people of those two examples had access to the truth and they rejected it. Theirs was the same sad fate that awaits any who reject the Salvation offered by God.

PS: God did not create Evil, and i would be impressed to see Scripture that says He did. Also, God doesn't hate anyone and physics is a science created in the finite minds of human beings to understand the infinite realm they live in. It is bound to be both malliable and errant at times.

Hope that helped!

2006-10-31 14:05:53 · answer #2 · answered by κερυξω 3 · 2 0

God loves us and created us in His image, though we are not perfect by any means. He knew we were sinful and that is why He sent His only begotten Son to die for our sins. Yes, Jesus was God, but he was a man, as well. Don't forget that, though we sin we still have the opportunity for eternal life. Free will is never a non-factor b/c He did, in fact, give us free will and that is a great thing, the problem lies within what some choose to do with that free will. We should all strive to be better and use that free will for good and ask fo forgiveness when we need it and understand the phrase, "But for the Grace of God go I." For it is when people forget that our lives are in His hands that murder, theft, adultery, and other sins take over. Remember that He is in control and choosing Him means, "We will one day be as the angels." Sin does not lie within His plans it lies without.

2006-10-31 14:12:45 · answer #3 · answered by lvminole 4 · 1 1

Hi Shogun, look God did not create sinful people, the Bible says that after God finished His work all that He looked on was good.
have you never heard that God gives and God takes away, this is His un-questionable right as Creator, and no amount of arguing can change that.
these people became totally rebellious,mocked God and finally disconnected from Gods friendship, and all this dispite God sending warning after warning through the Prophets, now seriously what more could He have done except force them to love Him,which is the one thing that love cannot do.
these people got every chance and took none of them, remember sin is totally repulsive to God and these people loved sin.

2006-10-31 14:14:19 · answer #4 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 0 0

God hates humans

2006-10-31 14:05:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

God origionally created us in His image to fellowship and worship Him without sin. God also gave humans a free will to make thier own decisions on who or what they would worship. Satan came into the picture in Genisis chapter three and decieved Eve, who in turn convinced her husband to sin by eating from the tree of knowledge. God knows all things and He knew they would ultimately fall into sin . After adam, all humans were born with the "sin nature" and we seem to always gravititate to what is not right. But God loved us and He created us for HIS good pleasure. Angels do not have a free will they were created to worship God. But as humans, we have a choice to worship and love Him or not. Sin does not keep us from Gods love or bring Gods destruction , its not having a relationship with Jesus that keeps us from God. He knows all things. God even knew you would wrtie this question, he knew th exact minute you would post it. Even if you don't know or love him, God is well aware of everything you do He only created one you for His good pleasure. God became angry in the old testament and he spared those that truely loved and served HIm.Remember, they weren't perfect. Then He sent Jesus to take away the sin of the world. Animal sacrifices wern't sufficent for our sinful nature. Once Jesus came and died and rose again and assended to Heaven. we were able to go directly to God for forgiveness. I believe that is why since Jesus , God hasn't destroyed the whole earth at once like in the great flood. In Sodem he just destryed the city. They were so corrupt they even wanted to have sodomy sex with the two angels that God had sent to warn Lot of the sure destruction of that city. He doesn't condem any human He wants us all to choose Him. We wont have every answer here but we will understand fully when we get to Heaven. hope my answer helped a little,God desired to have someone to come to him freely and of thier own decision, not everyone will do that. But it is the ones that come to HIm and fellowship with him he is seeking. Even though He knew many would end up in ultimate destruction , he wanted worship and companion ship of someone who was able to make that chioce of thier own free will. As you know not everyone wants to make that choice, they choose a path that is self serving and self seeking rather than surrendering thier hearts to an all knowing and loving God who created them.If God could make the decision for us, he would want us all to come to HIm freely, and willingly, but He isn't pushy, God is a Gentleman and He will show Himself mighty to those who turely seek to love and serve Him.God wants relationship with us all but unfortunately many of us just don't want anyone to have any type of rules or regulations such as holiness, etc. Despite evreything God already knew we would do as humans, I'm so thankful and in awe that He chose to show HImself to me as a Christan, and give me the blessing of having fellowship with HIm. I know I don't deserve it ,GOds love is a free gift. Just look of it as a gift to you from God and draw close to HIm with a grateful heart. God never disappoints us when we seek HIm.
God Bless,
Kat

2006-10-31 14:28:41 · answer #6 · answered by kathryn p 1 · 0 1

There is evil choice and there is blessed choice. What happened if the world is full of evil minded. The Omen .

2006-10-31 14:10:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah seems similar with the main exceptions that the cities were destroyed WITHOUT human agency, and that the vegetation was destroyed. God used some type of natural disaster to accomplish the destruction.


There are several known facts about this situation which might prove relevant. S&G lived in a good land (Gen 13.10-12). Abraham saved their cities once, in a masterful military maneuver (Gen 14), after which Abraham 'witnessed' to them. They were exposed to/had access to the pure message of God through Melchizedek--the priest-king of Salem--(who probably led Abraham to the true knowledge of God!). Nonetheless, they were extremely evil people (and who were proud of it--Is 3.9: The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.), and their crimes were both against God (Gen 13.13) and against people (Gen 18.20). Some twenty-five years after Abraham/Melky encounter, and several years after Lot had apparently been trying to 'moralize' the people (cf. Gen 19:9), the outcry to God is so great that He sends two angels to destroy the city and its environs (Gen 19.24ff). God had announced His intentions to Abraham in Gen 18, and agreed to spare the city if a few righteous could be found. Apparently, only Lot and his family (less than the required ten!) fit the description adequately, so the entire culture was judged and destroyed by God. The encounter involving Lot, the angels, and the men of the city is a vivid description of the evil of the city (Gen 19), and the NT refers to it as an example of judgment-future (2 Pet 2.6) with a special emphasis on sexual perversion (Jude 7). The fact that 'all the men of the city' were involved in the intended assault on Lot, indicates that the 'outcry' must have come from surrounding areas--hence, the 'international' scope of their evil. The destruction was immediate and total, including the surrounding cities and the vegetation (Gen 19.25), and is even used as an example by our Lord in Luke 17.29.

It is important to note that (1) they had plenty of access to 'truth' (at LEAST 25 years); (2) their crimes were perverse, public, and the cause of international protest/outcry to God(!); (3) the annihilation was a judgment; (4) God was willing to spare the innocent people--if any could be found; (5) children living in the households of their evil parents apparently died swiftly in the one-day event (instead of being killed--as homeless orphans--by a combination of starvation, wild beasts, exposure, and disease; or instead of being captured and sold as slaves by neighboring tribes, for the older ones perhaps?); (6) the one innocent man and woman are delivered (along with their children of the household).


The Flood of Noah


This was the largest annihilation/judgment to date (although it is very difficult to estimate with confidence the population at this time, especially given that 'violence' was at an extreme high and correspondingly would have made homicide rates horrendously high), and involved people, animals, and much vegetation (Gen 6-8). In a very incisive view of God's heart, we see the 'emotions' surrounding this apparent judgment:

5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth -- men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air -- for I am grieved that I have made them." (Gen 6.5ff)

We also see the rather violent nature of the crimes in Gen 6.13:

So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them.

The story is familiar: (1) God decides to 'spare the innocent' again and warns Noah to build a boat for him and his household (apparently NOT so innocent); (2) the evil/violence of the people were both against God and against humanity (Gen 6.12) and was VERY EXTENSIVE ("filled"); (3) some of the evil was probably sexual violence or violation (Gen 6.1-2); (4) Noah apparently "preached righteousness" to these people for AT LEAST a hundred years! (cf. 2 Pet 2.5); (5) this long period of preaching was an act of patience on God's part (I Pet 3.20);(6) in spite of the warnings, there were apparently no 'changed minds'.

Let's note again that (1) they had plenty of access to 'truth' (at LEAST 100 years) and at least a year of specific 'flood warnings'; (2) their crimes were violent and pervasive to God(!); (3) the annihilation was a judgment; (4) God was willing to spare the innocent people--if any could be found; (5) children living in the households of their evil parents would have undoubtedly died swiftly [the Flood was more of a sudden-event a la tidal waves, than a gradual rising water--cf. Gen 7.11: In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month -- on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.]; (6) the one innocent man and woman are delivered (along with their children of the household).

- Glenn Miller
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html

2006-10-31 14:21:19 · answer #8 · answered by Bruce 3 · 0 1

for his glory and besides God did not create sin

2006-10-31 13:58:31 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I would have to disagree with one of the peoples response. They said that God didn't create sin.But the bible does say that he created evil......why because of human free will.Yes God knows all things but allows us to choose our life in which direct we will go.God won't go past our will and freedom of choice.God didn't want robots and people who wat to live for him.

2006-10-31 14:03:08 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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