1 john 1:9 says If we admit we have sinned and confess our sins, He [Jesus] is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
These are the words the Apostle John wrote.
Jesus' words:
Matthew 6:12, 14,15: (in the Our Father Prayer),
"And forgive us our debts[sins], 'as we have also forgiven[left, remitted, and let go of all the debts, and have given up all resentment against] our debtors'"
vs 14 "For IF you forgive people their trespasses[sins, their reckless and willful sins, leaving them, letting them go, and giving up all resentment], then your heavenly Father will also forgive you !!"
vs. 15 Jesus speaking
"But IF you do Not forgive others their trespasses[their reckless and willful sins, leaving them, letting them go, and giving up all resentment], neither will your Father in heaven forgive you your trespasses[sins] !!"
1 john 1:9 is totally dependent on the words of Jesus in Mattthew 6:12, 14, 15 wouldn't you say?
2006-10-31 05:46:55 · 7 answers · asked by Thomas 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
B/c you do to others as you would have them do to you
2006-10-31 05:50:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't think they're so much different as they are out of context. It's basically saying this...if you cannot forgive others of their sins then how can Jesus forgive you when you have hate in your heart. Hating is an active sin and according to the Bible all sins are equal, another way to put it would be you are asking Jesus to forgive you for what you are in the process of doing. Ex. please forgive me for murdering this person that I am murdering right now. Obviously you are commiting sin, and obviously you aren't serious about being forgiven or you would stop. Now if you had committed sin in the past and were truly sorry, you could be forgiven. God forgives all sin, but you have to really be asking for forgiveness. You can't ask for forgiveness as a safety net "just in case" you must truly be sorry and want to actually be "better".
2006-10-31 14:05:14 · answer #2 · answered by ajax138 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Correct. It's for that very reason that Jesus is quoted at Matthew 5:
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
God views our forgiveness toward others as being so important that He's willing to wait for our offering until after we've reconciled with our brother.
However, I do not view an unforgiving heart as an impediment preventing salvation. God will work on the heart of that person after salvation and get him or her to understand that they must forgive, just as they've been forgiven. So it really works both ways.
Peace.
EDIT: "mzJakes," we do not claim it's a novel concept. Jesus is a Jew.
2006-10-31 13:56:38 · answer #3 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes definitely. But don't forget it was Jesus who taught the apostles these things. Forgiveness is such an important thing because we are forgiven as we forgive and wouldn't it be terrible one day when we get to heaven and the Lord were to take you up on why you lived in unforgiveness. Besides we sin so much everyday and if God were to stop forgiving you when you repent, well, that would be really terrible!!!
2006-10-31 13:54:28 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
This was not a novel concept but straight out of Judaism...just like almost everything else.
When someone commits a sin, one of the steps in remediating it is to seek forgiveness from the one who was sinned against. Now it is easy to see that there are sins against God and sins between man. In each case, the sinner must beseech the 'wounded' party before total forgiveness can be granted.
2006-10-31 13:51:26 · answer #5 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, they complement each other, giving a better understanding of forgiveness.
Just as 1 Cor 13:1-4 helps us to understand that faith and actions (love) are necessary also.
Even though Jesus said "faith saves" at John 3:16 it must be balanced with all the scriptures
2006-10-31 13:58:06 · answer #6 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The verses in Matthew are more dependent upon Matthew 5:23-24
"Therefore if thou bring thy gift unto the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift."
2006-10-31 13:55:35 · answer #7 · answered by lookn2cjc 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋