Is america really founded on christianity?

Question

i have the answers to that question and this is the proof you people need to wake up to.
American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.
When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

Answer 1

no -- it was not founded on the christian cult. need proof?

Simple!

Let's take a closer, more accurate look out our Founders and their Documents. (And, NO! I won't consider those "quotes" that have been edited by Falwell and Robertson that christians always find on their websites...SORRY!)

The Founders NEVER agreed that Christianity was the singular religion in America or that they used Christian inspiration in the Founding. What is the Smithsonian to some people...an empty building? Some people have the impression that the Framers were bashful, or reluctant to put their most cherished values into the writings that Founded this country Do the brainwashed people see, somewhere, in the primary Founding documents of this Country, something that looked like "bible"??? The Four Primary documents laying the Foundation of this country: 1) The Bill of Rights, 2) The Declaration of Independence, 3) The Articles of Confederation and 4) the US Constitution -- that nowhere, NOWHERE in ANY OF THEM, will you find any of these words: christ, bible, jesus, christianity. NOWHERE.

This value that people seem to think they AGREED UPON never shows up ANYWHERE in the primary, most influential documents that Founded this country. And, that chaps their @$$ so bloody that they insist they are there, even though they are not... So they lie, and say they are there in spirit because one of the Framers wrote some garbage about Jesus on a cocktail napkin or in a letter to his Aunt Phyllis. LOL... Jefferson thought the Bible was so full of garbage, that he re-wrote his own version (published, and called the Jefferson Bible) to distill out the basic "Golden Rule" teachings and to eliminate the superstitious deity-BS. Yet, adding to or subtracting from the Bible was out-and-out blasphemy to any true believer at that time!! But some morons will absolutely demand that Framers like Jefferson believed jesus was the son of god, when he clearly did not. Jefferson loved the moral teachings and thought the spiritual teachings were bunk and corrupted, claiming many times that Paul (the largest alleged contributor to the NT) was the biggest fraud and “first corruptor to the doctrines of Jesus”. In the Jefferson Bible, miracles and references to the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus are notably absent. The Bible begins with an account of Jesus's birth without references to angels, genealogy, or prophecy. The work ends with the words: "Now, in the place where he was crucified, there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus. And rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed." There is no mention of the resurrection. --– hardly the position of a true Christian. Anyway…

In fact, those Founding documents prove that he (and the others) did not feel as many mindless people will claim. The Framers AGREED to use terminologies consistent with Deists, which is what many of the Founding Fathers were. They didn't use biblical terminologies. They used phrases and references like this one, found in the Declaration of Independence: “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them…”

Not the biblical “jesus”…but the Deist reference to “Nature’s God and the Laws of Nature”.

Look it up: http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/doc...

If you’d even like further proof of the non-Christian intent and non-Christian foundation of this government, look to a very well-known treaty, the Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary, unanimously ratified by the Congress of the United States, June 10, 1797. It’s here:

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplom...

In that treaty is this language in Article 11: As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Wow! Christians can put their spin on that all they like. In fact, they can spin it like they spin phrases in the Bible. Give it the usual “it says that, but it doesn’t really mean that…in fact, it means the exact opposite, that the US was founded on Christianity…blah blah blah. Someone just forgot to tell our ENTIRE US CONGRESS at that time…” LOL!! (You’ll note that none of our official treaties or Congressional documents states the reverse…)

Anyway… let the mindless attempt to rewrite (or ignore) history all they like. Mindless people cannot change the well known official writings and founding documents, recorded for all time, no matter how hard they try. No amount of mumbling into their hands (prayer or whatnot) to their cult God will change it, either. It is what it is.

Happy Fourth of July! (Our Founders called it INDEPENDENCE DAY... Not Dependence Day... Make a note of it.)

Answer 2

Well Christianity might have indirectly influenced the founding of the America in some ways, but it certainly wasn't what the country was founded on and the founders certainly didn't believe the country was a "Christian nation". The Declaration of Indepedence and the constitution were influenced by whig opposition theory that was transplanted from England, the Enlightenment writers such as Locke, Hume, and Montesquie, as well as classical writers. You are correct, most of the founders were deists and some even disliked Christianity. I think this debate has been too polarized by the right and left. The founders weren't atheists but they also weren't all Christians. This country was never intended to be a "Christian" country and it's hilarious when people try to argue that.

Answer 3

are you going to tell me the pilgrims weren't Christians? hello! THAT'S THE VERY REASON THEY CAME HERE! for religious freedom! so did the puritans! that's why they didn't put it in the constitution. yes it was for "giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had". I'm not one to claim that one particular denomination was entirely correct and neither were our founding fathers.

"To argue that absence of expressly "Christian" language in the Constitution "is powerful evidence" of the founder's intent to avoid the influence of Christianity is, on the contrary, no evidence at all."

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, READ UNBIASED HISTORY BOOKS!

if anything read this article: http://www.lawandliberty.org/founders.htm

But if you just want to be uneducated, loud-mouthed and intransigent...be my guest!

Answer 4

I believe church and state should be separated...but tell that to all those politicians still dipping their hands in the cookie jar! I mean, what's the point? Christian religions should not be mingling in political affairs, and that's straight out of Jesus mouth! "My Kingdom is no part of this world...", and the last time I checked, a Kingdom is a government! Jesus also said, "pay Cesar's things to Cesar but God's things to God", making it clear that not only his followers should heed this warning, but also all those who chose to side with God's theocratic government..."let your kingdom come and let Your Will take place on earth as it is in heaven". You see, that is why I stay out of politics and all false religion that proclaims to be serving God when they really are all hypocrites! You made a good observation.

Answer 5

The truth is Deists believed that God created the heaven and the earth and then abandoned it. In the 1400s when man first came to this continent they were looking for "freedom of religion" and the right to "worship" as they pleased. Many people who have not believed have fought to the death your right to excercise this freedom. Sing Praise!

Answer 6

No. Adams was a Unitarian. Jefferson was a deist. The majority of the founding fathers were largely freethinkers, and opposed an establishment of religion; the 1st amendment, covered this.

Answer 7

While yes, the founders were clear that Church and State should remain seprate, it is false that the founders had no use for Christianity, in fact every single founder was active in thier church, and believed in Jesus Christ as thier Lord and Savior, even Thomas Jefferson, "the least religious founder," held prayer meetings, and Washington said that we should not remove the Bible from our schools, and not only that but the phrase "Thier Creator" is a refrence to God, so get over yourself and accept Christ as Lord and Savior before it is to late.

Answer 8

No, that's why the founding fathers wrote:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an estabishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
- First Ammendment -

Anyone who tries to convince someone otherwise is using the perverted form of the scientific method where they develop a conclusion, then find data to support it. This excludes all other conclusions that may better explain the data...

Answer 9

It is true that some of the founders were Deists, rather than Christians. However, I do believe they were not as adverse to organized religion as political people today. They believed in non-interference of religion. Today, advocates of "freedom of religion" seem to want to push religion out of the public square, in the name of the Establishment Clause. Our founders were firm believers in the respect of the different sects and tolerance meant celebrating all faith filled people, not shaming them for being faithful.

Answer 10

there is a vast difference in what Christian belief systems actually believe and what are actually practiced. will state there are some of us who have a better understanding of certain principles than others because of different wisdom and knowledge which many are unaware of. even though there have been many changes from the founding of the U.S. until modern times.

Answer 11

You are right, it is not.

Also the Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by Congress in 1797, near enough to the founding our nation to remember, states that we are not based in Christianity.

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"