take it this way after my last question on religion..?

Question

everything has a builder right?

you see this house. you do not know who the builder is. you never saw the builder.you never heard the builder say anything.you never touched the builder.but this house has to have a builder!

but what about this world?doesn't the universe and the planets have to have a builder?yes, we already know about the so called creator. but who created the creator? have you ever thought it this way?what if our world had a beggining?obviously it did. but who made all these things that we see in the front of our eyes?what if there is an ending?

the thing with the builder is my opinion about god. i never saw, touched or heard him but i know he was there to make actions. just like the builder, god is here. somewhere, but no one knows.

Answer 1

Your logic falls down in the second paragraph. The universe and the planets do not have to have a builder. In fact it's ridiculous - and false - to think that someone could have put them together.

The assumption seems to be that because one thing was intentionally put together, everything must be intentionally put together. But of course that does not follow.

On my kitchen floor there is a metal wrench. It was put together by someone, designed by someone, built in a particular way with an intention. Next to it is a dust bunny - a small collection of dust and cat hair. No-one designed that dust bunny, and there was never any intentionality involved in how it came to be.

This should be obvious, but we're so drenched in religion that for some reason it isn't, and in fact you can probably find people so fanatic about their religious beliefs that they would insist that the dust bunny WAS intentionally designed: that "god" took the time to decide exactly what it should look like and be made of, and then created it in that form. If that doesn't strike you as amazingly ridiculous, then you're almost certainly beyond the reach of rational discussion.

Later: Sasi writes "All matter had to be originated from something by an originator".

Nope. You're just assuming that you're right. This is neither evidence nor logical argument. It's just a restatement of your false assumption.

Answer 2

In answer to this and your last question. There is a force so great that it caused the big bang theory. An overwhelming weight of evidence has convinced cosmologists that the universe came into existence at a definite moment in time, some 13 billion years ago, in the form of a superhot, superdense fireball of energetic radiation. This is known as the Big Bang theory.(energy/matter etc etc) Thus creating the planets etc etc etc. It's not a him. You can't touch it but you can see what it can do. Over the years the force has been called God. It's not a man. It's a force.

Answer 3

Every BUILDING has a builder. Every LAW has a law-maker. Both building and law-making require pre-existing intelligence.

Now, Paul S - your points: It is true that the dust-bunny was not built, but individual particles of dust and cat-hairs were formed from pre-existing elements . All matter had to be originated from something by an originator. The dust-bunny wasn't exactly an item in the Creator's Grand Original Scheme of Things as such, but the dust-bunny is simply a random combination of two elements according to the outworking of natural laws that obtain on planet earth (gravity and wind). The point is, could there ever be a dust-bunny without dust and cat hairs and gravity and wind? The answer to that is 'No'. The next question is, 'How did dust, cat hairs, gravity and wind get here - by blind chance, or by design?' Keep going. You'll get there eventually.

Answer 4

A great question in my opinion as a christian the builder who i call God always has been because he exists out of the dimension of time. There's those who believe it all came about by accident which as a mathematician calculated is a chance of trillions to one. I mean take the chance our planet is in just the right place with the right atmosphere to sustain intelligent life. In fact many great thinkers have believed there's some intelligence behind it all Albert Einstein being just one of them it is just pure ignorance to rule it out of hand.

Answer 5

The analogy is simple but the creation of the Universe is so so so very complex that if all the wisest heads got together and thought for all of time they would not come up with an answer.
If you really understand cosmology and cosmo-genesis you would not even dare ask a question like that. So stop it. The question is on the verge of insanity.

Answer 6

that's a bad analogy. it is a fact that the product of a builder is a structure. there are many builders in the world. they live in houses all across the world. that building that you are referring to has a builder and I'm sure he has a house somewhere. right or wrong. go back to the drawing board.

Answer 7

Uh.

What the hell does the house have to do with anything? You cannot take a man-made construct, say, "That has a builder," and extrapolate that to take the Earth and say, "Because that house had a builder, Earth must also have an all-powerful, invisible builder."

The two concepts are unrelated. It doesn't prove anything, you're just spinning your wheels.

Answer 8

This is the same question again, with the same flaws. It implies that god also had to have a creator, and god's creator had to have a creator.

in this case you're just using god as a synonym for "the point at which I run out of ideas". a was caused by b, which was caused by c... and eventually you don't know anymore, so you go, er, god did that bit.

Answer 9

Yes

Answer 10

Ok i'm taking your ques seriously. If you really keen to know then i'm happy to tell you. The best ans i guess is WE ALL don't know why is this happening. You might never know that HE had Created 5 of you throughout history or maybe currently in another universe. We don't even know why dinosaour is created. Maybe on some views God might have came down on earth as a dinosour and die for salvation for all dino-kind. Who knows.

If we were from scum or monkeys what do you think MAN will evolve to 1billion years from now? Do you know that your ques who created the creator should't stop there. The real ques is Who created the creator of creator of creator and so on bla bla bla. That is way out of our league.

Man are so smart but can man create EXACTLY another MAN? Until now with ALL technologies on earth man still can't create a robot that reach 0.0001% similar to human.

Earth do rotates the sun but why can't EARTH be an inch further from the sun or an inch nearer from it? Now we know but anybody know this in the last decade? When you created something do you think you create that? God wants you to create that.

So your ques should be this, "WHY the hell GOD create us and what is our purpose?"

He create us for 1 sole purpose. That is to FIND him. God create the world as our home and playground. God wants YOU to know the reason for everything that he has created. (thats the reason why MUSLIMs are highly INTELLIGENT IN EVERY espect on earth). EG. why did HE created dogs? Now we know why is becouse dogs serves man in many way. Then why did HE created cats? Find out yourself.

GOD doesnt create anything for fun!! He create EVERYTHING for a purpose. That purpose is for man himself to ponder, learn and be amaze of GOD'S WONDER.

Heres another one- Do you know the purpose of your armpit hair? NObody knows but there MUST be a reason.

The very 1ST word Angel Gabriel said to Prophet MUHAMMAD(pbuh)is "READ" That word is a very strong clue GOD gave us!!!! If you can't read can you learn?

How can you know the nature of the sun or stars or sea if you can't read. HOW could you even undertand the bible if you can't read!! Sooooo the more you read the more you understand the more closer you to GOD!!!.

Here the last question for you to ponder. Since reading is a strong clue to muslims, Do you think The MUSLIMS never scrutinise THE entire BIBLE series for clues to GOD? Believe me for 1400 years they did. And the ans of who GOD is and what is all this about can be found in the Holy Quran(God's Final Message) to mankind.

I wish you well in your persue for the truth.
ALLAH(S.W.T)(GOD) is All-Mighty, All-Merciful, All-Knowing. GOD knows what you know not.