God the abortionist?

Question

Ok believers please tell me where this breaks down...

Around 50% of fertilised eggs are aborted naturally, ie they exit a womens body after conception either by failing to implant (most usual) or for another reason such as incorrect hormone levels.

These are FERTILISED eggs so therefore posess a soul according to you.

God has created the human body and reproductive organs within so is in a very real sense responsible for this process. soo...

What happens to all those 'souls' (50% remember) that are literally flushed away, and why are you so concerned when a minority of women seek to emulate the creator?

I wish it were silly but women's reproductive right are under attack using the concept of the soul.

I am personally in favour of a woman's right to chose, but that is not the point I am making here. It is that you cannot say that life begins at conception and use that as an argument to be anti-abortion, there are plenty of other arguments you can have on the subject, just not this one.

Answer 1

This is one of those questions where theists come along, take a look at the logic, and go "Uh-oh," clicking on the Next Question button for an easy way out. See how everyone is answering in agreement? Are all you pro-lifers taking a break at the same time all over the world? All except for King BSc in Religion and Biology, who claims that they don't implant. WHAT DO YOU THINK A MISCARRIAGE IS? They give out BScs pretty easily in some places, it seems. Good question.
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Answer 2

I'm an atheist and even I find this line of reasoning offensive.

A miscarriage is a natural, if tragic, process, caused by some physiological process or another (often, fatal mutation or failed implantation). There is no moral fault in this -- it is nature running its course.

Abortion is the willful termination of a genetically distinct being that is undergoing independant metabolism with an independant circulatory system. By the end of the first trimester, there is already detectable neurological impulses in its undeveloped nervous system -- impulses that have been shown to be responsive to the environment.

Abortion kills potential. The sole time it should be permitted is when the child is not feasible and the mother cannot live to the age of feasibility -- even if it costs the mother her life.

Abortion carries with it a better than 50% incidence of severe clinical depression within 5 years. In cases of rape or incest, abortion rarely provides the comfort expected, rates of suicide between rape victims who carry to term and rape victims who go for the abortion are dramatically skewed towards the abortions -- that is, the rape + abortion have vastly higher rates of suicide than rape + birth. The woman needn't even keep the child; every single state has a waiting list for infant adoptions.

Given the severe amount of potential harm abortion causes to the developing individual and the developed individual, how is it moral to allow abortion and yet forbid the private use of the various illegal drugs on the 'potential' of doing someone else grevious harm?

Answer 3

Good question. I am currently pregnant but have had 5 miscarriages (that I know of), they were further along than just a fertilised egg stage. Although all the miscarriages happened in the first trimester before brain activity happens, so technically there was no conscience... does that mean there is still a soul??

Oh and FYI, I dont oppose abortion, its every womans right to choose...

Answer 4

I don't agree with abortion (other than in medical or criminal cercumstances) but I see your point. Also, I wouldn't define it having a "soul" at fertility, but after conception. Although, many women also miscarry without ever knowing it implanted (within the first several weeks, which is often too soon to even have noticed a missed period if you're irregular).
Pretty much, it's not ethical to pass judgement, especially for those who claim to do it in the name of God, who has clearly told Christians that judgement is to be left to him.

Answer 5

I think that the difference is that those 50% are natural wastage, whereas the person who decides to have an abortion is making a deliberate decision to take away another life. I believe it's your conscience you have to answer to and I imagine that some people would struggle with it afterwards.

People who believe that you have to face the wrath of God if you decide to have an abortion may also want to consider then, should they be killing and eating animals, since they are after all, living things with souls also created by God.


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Answer 6

No one knows why spontaneous abortions occur. We can claim its our bodies way of rejecting a 'broken' embryo, or that our bodies just arent hospitable. However, I do believe that life begins at conception. I believe that those souls are taken care of by God. I also believe it is a womans right to choose. Its her fate she's dealing with, because God love all babies, and he will welcome the unwanted with loving arms and raise them himself. Have a Good Day.

Answer 7

I agree with you. But those are the fertilized eggs that aren't even known about. Most women have at least one or two miscarriages before a successful birth. So god must have killed all those babies too, under the "every egg has a soul" logic.

Answer 8

You're assuming that the soul exists. I'm sorry but it's a human delusion. There is no proof for the existence of it except for people's archaic beliefs.

Wow, that answer above me - do you believe that's true for everyone? What about people who do everything in their power to eat healthily and take the right vitamins and still miscarry? What about people who are quite frail and miscarry, are you saying that it's all their fault?

Answer 9

what are you the King of opinions? to tell us we can not have it as an opinion is absurd! By the way I did have an abortion and it is murder. I didn't even want to have the abortion to begin with and after having two kids I seldom thought about it, but our sins have a way of "finding us" and about 16 years after I had it , it began to haunt me and I felt so horrible I wanted to kill myself. Thank God he had a plan to redeem me and now I have no condemnation. But can tell you from experience it is murder and life does begin at conception.

Answer 10

You're confounding me with LOGIC!....please, STOP--I'm getting a headache!!!
Seriously..what fundaMENTALists don't get is that if an event happens, it did so because it was God's will....which means every abortion was GOD'S WILL!
Remember---even Hitler's birth was God's will!!
9/11/01???---yup--that was God's will too!! it's all part of "the plan"...you can't have GOOD without also having EVIL.