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Why we are here ? isn't we forget our self & God ?

2006-10-30 15:25:01 · 10 answers · asked by Dev 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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We were born to know and love God and to put forth an ever-advancing civilization.

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2006-10-30 19:07:19 · answer #1 · answered by Linell 3 · 0 0

We existed before birth, and we will exist after death.

I believe we are here, on earth, so that we have an opportunity to make an informed choice about whether or not to love God. That makes the love of God for eternity all the sweeter. And it makes the rejection of God all the more bitter.

2006-10-30 23:29:35 · answer #2 · answered by Privratnik 5 · 0 0

We are given birth, to love God and to be his friend.
He created Adam to walk with him to be his friend.
Abraham was called a friend of God.
Yet we need to witness more and win souls into the Kindom of God
God said if a man forget me, I will never forget him
Can a woman forget her suckling child?
I have engraved you in the palm of my hand.
We sometime are selfish and go our own way

But he will tenderly and lovingly draw us back to him.
We are bought with a price, what he owns with his own blood he will go after it.
Yet that is our choice and sometimes we do make wrong choices.
He is a loving and gracious God and full of kind tender mercies.
His mercies are new every morning
thanks for listening, hope that helps

2006-10-30 23:39:32 · answer #3 · answered by Gifted 7 · 0 0

God does'nt give birth, you 're born because of your desire. Day you become devoid of any kind of desire you attain salvation & ur soul rest in eternal peace.

2006-10-30 23:35:51 · answer #4 · answered by pintu s 2 · 0 0

God give us birth to fulfill his wish.he knows you before you were born.but some people change that's a different thing.

2006-10-30 23:30:48 · answer #5 · answered by Samson D 1 · 0 0

Read this.
http://everystudent.com/wires/greatest.html

2006-10-30 23:27:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Dev,
Please reread your question and then retype in back into this site.

2006-10-30 23:28:07 · answer #7 · answered by CEM 5 · 0 0

Sorry can you repeat that again please. Don't mean to be rude but you don't make sense.

2006-10-30 23:28:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

BECAUSE HE LOVES US SO!

2006-10-30 23:27:34 · answer #9 · answered by danieldenzel2 3 · 1 0

Future of everything in this universe___ is the dark depth of the unknown. The present is changing it into sunshine of the known. Whereas our past is the reserved record of that light which has been collected, ray by ray, from our present.

One end of the past is our birth. Which is an undeniable reality. While the other end is the present moment. Which is passing by the tick tock of clock. And___ the last end of the unknown future is our death. Which is again an undeniable reality.


That is a particular situation wherefrom we are always confronted. And___ among the undeniable realities of birth & death__ we can not ignore the TRUTH. That is why we are naturally driven to these three basic questions:

Where do we come from?
Where are we going?
What are we doing?
WHERE DO WE COME FROM?

It is quiet easy to say that we have not come in this world from some external place or planet. Instead “we are born” or “we have been born” here___ on the earth.

“We are born” is a pure scientific concept. While “we have been born” is a pure religious concept. But the question of “where do we come from” still needs more clarification.

Some people are of the view that our entity was existing prior to our birth, at some unknown place. It was, perhaps, without body and spirit. Or perhaps with the both as it is at present. Either we have lost our previous memory. Or our present existence is totally different from our previous existence. And___ our present form is completely forgetful of our previous form.

Famous Urdu poet of the Sub-Continent (Old United India) Asadullah Khan Ghalib is of the view that prior to our birth we were part of God. Ghalib has expressed this view in the following verse:

”When there was nothing then God was there. If nothing had been there, even then, God would have been there. My birth has diminished me. If I had not been there then what would I have been”?
(Ghalib)

The verse means that when nothing was yet existing. Even at that time, God was very much existing. And everything to be born in future___ was existing within God including the poet.

The poet is therefore of the view that if he had not taken the birth. Then___ being a part of God___ he himself would have been God.

Cause of such a thought on the part of Ghalib is Sufism (Pantheism). Whereby God is identified in terms of the material universe. And it is popularly believed that:

“God is everything and everything is God”.

Ghalib is, however, to some extent, different from Sufies (Pantheists). Sufies always believe that God is everything and everything is God. But Ghalib’s confession that after his birth, he is no more a God, instead, he is a commonplace creature___ is his open departure from Sufism.

The most ponder-able and noteworthy words, in Ghalib’s verse, are the following words:

“My birth has diminished me”.

Whereby Ghalib is treating his birth as a tragedy and an irreparable loss for him. For the birth has degenerated him from God to a commonplace creature. So, here Ghalib is far different from Sufies. His theory of birth is based on two parts.
According to the 1st part of his theory, everything is God, prior to its birth. Whereas according to the 2nd part of his theory, everything is degenerated to a commonplace creature after its birth. 2nd part is particularly ponder-able.

Being a subject of birth and death, all the creatures are helpless and mortal including mankind. Here, we feel ourselves quiet agreeable to Ghalib. But we can not agree to the Sufies that we are God. Reasoning does not allow any room for such a notion.

If we are God then why are we so helpless and a subject of birth and death?

If the whole chain of creatures, is God? If it is so___ then why God is so helpless and a subject of birth and death?

Ghalib’s theory of birth, of course, bespeaks that whosoever is born___ that is not God. But the 1st part of Ghalib’s theory is not convincing that prior to our birth__ we are part of God. If the case was really, like that, then, why those arts have become degenerated and despised after birth? Does God degenerate God’s absolute existence into a diminished creature by birth? And___ if it is true then___ how much of God’s absolute existence is now remained perfect___ and how much is diminished? Is process of birth___ a separation of God___ from God?

These questions do clarify that Ghalib’s theory is a double-faced theory. He has learnt from Sufies (Pantheists) that God is an aggregate whole of many parts. And___ at the same time___ he has learnt from religious scholars that creatures are separate from God and subservient to God.

What Ghalib could not understand, is the fact that God is not an aggregate whole of many parts. Nor anything or any person was a part of God’s Absolute Existence. Nor anything or any person may ever become a part of God because nothing is alike God. God is Holy and the All-Alone Creator of everything___ every person___ and every creature. Hence, Ghalib and Sufies (Pantheists) the both are wrong.

Ghalib’s view that prior to our birth___ we were God and threefold view of Sufies that we were God___ prior to our birth and we are God___ even after our birth__ and we will absorb in God___ after our death___ all in all___ is wrong. Because God is not an entity at all, which is degenerate-able in parts.

In either case___ to approach the reality___ we are bound to know___ nothing else but God. That who is God? What is God? Why God is God? And why God should be believed as One Alone God?

However, before beginning the discussion about God__ we should take into account some other suppositions about ourselves as well.

For instance, we might be remote controlled robots of some scientifically advanced creature of some other planets. As UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) are seen here and there, these days and their pictures are published in the newspapers. And___ some people have even met them in person.


Or___ we might have come from many planets duly sent by different creatures. Our mutual differences ___ our preparations of war___ our indulgence in strategic plans___ our celebrations over each others defeats and the likewise rivalry-based movements___ are the practical indications of such a supposition.

The first world war followed by the second world war and now___ preparation of third world war including the cold wars of the peace-periods__ also do speak of the same supposition.

Establishment of U.N.O and veto power of the super powers therein__ is another proof of the same situation.

Faces and forms of the people of this world are so varied and unified___ that they seem all alike and different at the same time. For instance, being humans Africans are just like the English people. But on account of colour & features, they are different from each other just like the day and night.

Likewise, Japanese are different from Arabs and Asians. Asians and Arabs are different from Russians. It seems as if the earth is a battlefield and different species of mankind are demonstrating their power to dominate each other.

Humans___ in this context, are the chess-soldiers who are ever-ready to kill or to be killed. Negroes, Indians, Arabs, Japanese, Americans etc. are the warring teams of some galactic super powers. Perhaps on the same account___ the countless deads of the Great Wars___ are not remembered with sorrow & grief. Instead, their graves are piled up with the wreaths of flowers___ to praise and glorify their death.

American celebrations on destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki including the innocent residents___ do tell us that the word “civilization” means nothing to us. Humanity is not a thing to be respected and regarded. The only and all-important thing___ is the war strategy and demonstration of power.


A child___playing a video game derives a specific pleasure by hiring & firing on the screen. Perhaps___ the same sort of pleasure is derived by the advanced creatures of other planets. Who have sent the humans-like remote controlled robots on the earth.

Where do we come from? The question is a highly bewildering question. But to bewilder us__ is not its function. Its function is to stimulate us to think & search out the truth.

Besides galactic war & rivalry, we can see the reasonable recesses as well. Whereby it is easily guessed that SOMEONE is definitely there. Who wants to see peace and peaceful co-existence on the earth. Though___ victory is considered more important on national level. Yet on individual level, we can see that face of sorrow and grief is the same.

One may be a believer___ or a non-believer___ or an atheist___ or an Indian__ or an American___ or a Japanese___ but everyone is basically a human being. Whose nature is positively inclined to peace and peaceful co-existence. Majority of the masses, has always disliked the war and war leaders.

On human level, a woman is a woman who never wants to become widow. A father is a father who never wants to see the death of his son. Confronted by war and its disasters, human sorrow and grief has always been alike throughout the world.

Peace-oriented nature of masses___ does not like the war-oriented leadership. Whereby it is naturally proved that the latent purpose of life is not war at all. Instead, that is peace and peaceful co-existence on the earth.

The convincing concept of human service, prevailing in Christianity is highly admirable. People of all the religions do come within its working orbit. This thing tells us that humans are the creatures of such a CREATOR___ who is the Most Generous and the Most Merciful.

In ancient religions___ coming from Buddha and Mahaveera___ animals and insects are also regarded as God’s creatures and are not harmed at all. Instead, they are left untouched, letting them to breed and prosper. Such a positive care does reflect that the Unseen God wants peace & peaceful co-existence on the earth.

“There is no compulsion in religion” is the fundamental principle of all the religions. It means that all sorts of oppression and exploitation are prohibited in religion. War is permissible in terms of the self-defense alone.

All four legged animals on earth invite our special attention that simply graze in green fields and do not eat flesh. They are the most harmless and peaceful creatures.

God has given them horns on their heads. These horns are, in fact, their weapons of defense. They use them only at the time when they are attacked by the beasts. Study of nature, as such, tells us that:

1.Weapons are meant for the purpose of peace___ not for the purpose of war.

2.Peace essentially requires defense and destroying peace is a beastly act.

So, the earth is not a battle-field. Nor, war is the aim of life. Nor, humans are the remote controlled robots of the advanced creatures of other planets. Real situation is quiet different. We are not the rival tribes at war, instead, we are the peace loving and peace ensuring creature on the earth.

At this stage when all of us are standing on the edge of our ultimate death due to the nuclear and even more sophisticated weapons, we should realize the indispensable need of peace.

Since inception of the human life and the battle of survival on the globe___ a strange human performance has always been in progress. And___ that is the preaching enterprise of the Prophets among their fellow-men. And___ their education has always been regarded as Divine Education.

If we had been a remote controlled creature of other planets. Or___ we had been a composite creature of various gods. Then the Prophets must have told us about such planets and gods including their commandments. But no such news has ever been given by the Prophets___ throughout the human history. Instead, they have always talked about the One Alone God and God’s Commandments alone. And___ they have also told us that we have been created and sent to this earth by the same One Alone God.

Scientific research tells us that our body is made of soil. The soil___ brought to the earth by various meteors from millions of planets. The same soil is now the body of humans and animals on the earth and that is the biological base of life.

Science is busy in biological research but it is silent about self and spirit of the creatures.

Majority of the ignorant masses, is of the view that science is a religion-refuting branch of knowledge but that is not correct. Such a notion on their part is on account of their ever-increasing interest in material gains. They have no time to study the science of realities or the science of religion or even their own souls and selves. So they can not apprehend the world of actual realities.

Such people are of the view that religion is an ancient fossil and that is all. These people do not know that the scientists have succeeded in believing the Lord___ the One Alone God. Not through some external sources but through their own research. Whereby they have reasonably realized that religion is not an ancient fossil. Instead, it is the most moderate and scientific code of life brought forth by our Creator___ the One Alone God. Famous scientist Albert Einstein admits the existence of One Alone God in the following words:

“That is an infinite and the Most Sublime power and cause whose effects are seen everywhere in this inapprehensible universe”

(Thesis: in confirmation of Einstein’s Creative Power by Marline Buxs Kradar)

Albert Einstein has hinted here upon the One Alone God. He has not hinted here upon two or three gods or two or three causes. By declaring the universe as inapprehensible, he is declaring that the Creator of universe, is also, inapprehensible. Thus he has positively confirmed the reality of Monotheism and discarded the baseless notions of Henotheism and polytheism.

Albert Mc Combus Vanchester (the biologist) says in this thesis: “Science has strengthened my belief”:-

“Science removes the polytheistic notions___ mingled with our Monotheistic religious beliefs___ by those self-evident realities which can be confirmed by us through the observable testimonies”.
We must think over the situation positively. Since inception of human population on the earth__ the situation is going on___ in the same way. The Messengers have been talking of the Message___ duly received from the Creator of all-dimensions. Believers thereof have been being saved while the deniers thereof have been being destroyed.

Evident is the fact that if human intellect had not been limited___ then, it would have furnished the answers of following questions___ by itself:

Where do we come from?
Where do we go after death?
What is the aim or purpose of life?

As the human-intellect is limited and unable to furnish reasonable answers of these questions. So, it becomes naturally imperative that our Creator may kindly furnish the desirable answers of these questions, through a man like us. Praise be to the Lord___ Our Creator has always responded to us in positive terms. Messengers & Prophets have always been coming to us___ in all ages___ and at all times.

Now come to the context again. Is the two-dimensional square, in a position, to show three-dimensional creature, to his fellows? Or can he hint upon the third dimension in such a way that the two-dimensional creature may understand it?

If the two-dimensional creatures demand again and again, that the two-dimensional square must show them either three-dimensional creature or, at least, the third dimension. Then, in what terms the square will respond? Whereas the square is unable, to draw some image or imagination of three-dimensional creature or the third dimension, within the frame of two-dimensional description. Nor he can bring three-dimensional creature or the third dimension, before them.

Three-dimensional creature is not describable in words according to the structure of intellect of the two-dimensional creature. Nor some picture or sculpture thereof, can be made in colours & lines or in stone or metal, which could be seen, in the two-dimensional terms.

Obvious is the condition that every two-dimensional object will be treated, as actual and the real, by the two-dimensional creature. While every three-dimensional object will be treated as unreal and imaginary by the two-dimensional creature. On the same account, the two-dimensional square is unable to hint upon three-dimensional creature or the third dimension. But inspite of the setback, the square will continue his converse about his incidental meeting with the three-dimensional creature and it’s message for the two-dimensional creature. Consequently, he will be held, as a liar or a super natural creature stricken mad, by his two-dimensional fellows.

Innocent square will be telling them, the truth, but no one will be trusting his statement from his two-dimensional fellows. At last, the limited intellect, which is intervening as an obstacle between the truth and it’s acceptance, will be left aside and the dialogue will come on the following turning-point:

“Whosoever is freely desirous, he may
believe in the unseen, And___
whosoever denies the truth on his own
account__ such one should wait for
such a day when the truth will come
across him and remove his doubts.
Of course the believers will be positively
rewarded and the deniers will have to
Suffer from retribution”.

We are, no doubt, the inhabitants of three-dimensional universe. Here, our mind and intellect, the both, are corresponding to three-dimensions of length, width and the height or depth. And___ our knowledge is based on the information of three-dimensional world and our life is a three-dimensional activity, within our three-dimensional surroundings.

Here in our world, a man like us, compels us that we should believe in God and the angels. And___ he tells us that he has met a multidimensional creature, the angel Gabriel. Who has given him a message from God___ God is the Creator of all dimensions but God is free from the dimensions and nothing is alike God and as such God is beyond our intellect and conscious.

We respond in terms of the demand that we want to see God and the angels. He replies that it is not possible through our three-dimensional intellect. Especially we can not see God with our eyes as God is not a thing___ nor a material or immaterial object, instead, God is the Absolute Holy.

We discuss the matter at length, in three-dimensional terms but no specific result comes out. We leave the situation as it is, saying thereby, that we are not ready to believe that,which is beyond our intellect. If to see the angel is not possible for us, then, how the Messenger, himself, has seen him?

He tries to make us understand that he has really met angel Gabriel in a known state and he has really received the Message from him and God is really existing. But we remain captives of our limited intellect and do not accept the truth. Since the state in which Prophet receives message from God, remains our “unknown”, therefore, we stretch out our tongues against the Messenger. And, the process of hearing and accepting the truth, seems to us just like an irrational process due to our three-dimensional approach.

In human society, the matter of belief in God and truthfulness of Verses, has always been like that. In fact, we believe in three-dimensional realities alone. In our eyes, three-dimensional world is the only real world. A famous French painter Gustave Courbet was asked to paint the angels in Church. Courbet replied:

“Angels? How can I paint what I have not seen”. 3

On account of this very statement, Courbet is called as a realistic painter in the world of Art. And___ that is this very instance, which reveals the fact that reality of the people with three-dimensional vision, is always a limited thing.

Church has, in turn, presented the angels and God, as three dimensional creatures. Painted figures of many angels including God, have been brought before the eyes of masses by the Church. So that, three-dimensional people may apprehend and believe in them, in three-dimensional terms. Whereas the 1st Commandment in Bible, is clearly declaring the worship of images, as an act of hatred and enmity against God.

3This answer of Courbet was not in response to the Commandments of god but it was based on the realism of three dimensional world.

Most interesting is the thing that to establish certain notions, church has called such a book___ a revealed book_____, which has been got, written by the church itself. Name of this book is Gospel by John. Introducing the same, Church itself is writing:-

1.“This Gospel was written so that its readers might believe that Jesus is the Promised Saviour, the son of God and that through their faith in him, they might have life”.

(Introduction to John, First Five Lines, Good News Bible, United Bible Societies, 1976, New York)

Almost the same wording is written in the Gospel as well in Verse 31 of the Chapter 20. And___ it is also written therein:

2.“No one has ever seen God. The only Son, who is the same as God……”
(John 1:18)

Here____ through these two references___ the Church-made two deliberate alterations, are automatically unveiled.

1.The Church has transformed the multidimensional religion of Jesus into a three-dimensional religion.
2.The Church has made an image of God through the words: “the same as God” relating them to the so called introduction of Jesus. Whereas Jesus had never introduced himself in these words throughout his life.

Jesus (PBUH) always called him as the Son of Adam (Matthew 19:28, 24:44) but Church is calling him as the Son-God. So Church is, as such, trying to prove that God is a man.

How like is God? This very question has already been responded by the God, in the following words:

“I____ and I alone____ am God
no other god is real”.
(Duet 32:39)

“Worship no god but Me!
Do not make for yourselves images
of anything. In heaven or on earth or
in the water under the earth.
Do not bow down to any idol or worship it”.
(Duet 5:7 to 9)

Hence, the notion that Jesus is just like God and he was with God since ever and he is the son of God____ is all-in-all wrong. Such a notion tantamounts to a malafide boldness, which has been purposely planned to refute God and God’s Commandments.

John’s statements are, in fact, based on opposition of the Lord, the One Alone God. So, the followers of John are indulged in making a false god with the Real God, the One Alone Lord. They have accepted this very statement of John as it is, without any critical study thereof:

“No one has ever seen God. The only son is the same as God……..”
(John1:18)

The statement means that there is another god, beside God, who is just like God.

Such a belief is quiet contrary to the belief, described in terms of the Ten Commandments. Wherein God has warned that no image of God should be formed___ as nothing is alike God. To form an image or imagination of God so as to worship it___ is equal to the worship of an idol, which is an act of hatred and enmity against God. Church has formulated a new thing in religion by declaring the Prophet Jesus as God.

Famous American Priest, Jimmy Sweagert says in the way & style of John:

“God descended to earth in the guise of Jesus so as to walk and talk among people”.

It means that Jesus is god and it also means that Jesus alone is god___ the real god. Another belief is also popular that God is the father and Jesus is the son. As such every Christian believes in the following two contradictory things:

1.Jesus himself is god___ the real god.
2.God is the father and Jesus is the son.

Strange is the situation that no Christian bothers to think that if Jesus himself is god___ the real god___ then who is the son? Father & son, the both are different persons. Father can never be considered as son and son can never be considered as father and both can never be considered as one or alone.

Father or son___ are the names of human creature on the earth. Whereas nothing on the earth is alike God. Nor it can become alike God.

One of my friends__ was asked by someone that why he did not accept Jesus as the Son of God. He replied that whenever he succeeded in finding some news of the grandfather of Jesus___ he would accept Jesus as the Son of God___ then and there.

As the Christians believe in God, in terms of a creature or a thing on the earth. In the same way, pantheists or Sufies believe in God, in terms of a creature or a thing on the earth. That is why that they oftenly say that:

“God is everything and everything is God”.

Whereas it is clearly written in Bible & Quran the both that:
“Nothing is alike God”.

It means that to form an image or imagination of God by means of three-dimensional intellect or consciousness____ is not possible at all. Rather, it is not possible even by means of multidimensional intellect or consciousness___ as God is dimensions free. So, whosoever makes some image or imagination of God____ indeed he makes an idol and commits a tremendous sin and becomes an enemy of God.

2006-10-31 00:50:54 · answer #10 · answered by ibn adam 4 · 0 0

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