Creationists: How do you explain that only 0.1% of life scientists believe in creationism?

Question

About 40% of those (99%) scientists that believe in evolution are also religious or believe in a god like Kenneth Miller (professor of biology at Brown University, testified against intelligent design, and Orthodox Roman Catholic) or Francis Collins (Director of human genome project, against ID, and Born Again Evangelical Christian).

Explain to me how most of you (people without a college degree in life science) know a lot more than the 99.9% of scientists that have Ph.D's and M.D.'s in those fields and would win the Nobel Prize if they disproved evolution. Please enlighten me as to how this global conspiracy is done. Let me guess? Satan?! Wow, I guess you throw out Free Will out of your religion if you invoke that Satan controlled the mind of nearly 500,000 scientists for most of their life and research.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm

Answer 1

You pose many interesting questions. I’ll first comment on some of the already given answers, and then I’ll get back to a positive account on the main question.

1) The answer given by “Elphaba” is not a totally correct account of what the current state of affairs is, although she gets it partly right. It is, of course, true that the creationists have “faith” in creationism; but it is also equally true that the Darwinists have “faith” in Darwinism. That’s the whole idea with belief systems and “-isms.” So the fact that the creationists and the Darwinists have faith in their respective “paradigm” does not indicate that they may not also have good reasons for their positions.

But “Elphaba” is probably saying more than that. She probably is also implying that the creationists do NOT, in general, have any good reasons for their stance, or even any bad reasons, and that the creationists are not “intelligent,” not “logical”, but just having some “whimsical” non-informed “blind” faith.

My answer to such a position (even if that wasn’t the position that “Elphaba” implied or meant) is that it may be true that there are SOME creationists that have no clue as to why they have faith in creationism. Maybe. (But then again, there are people of “blind faith” in all camps, also on the non-creationist side.) But, in general, the majority of people who subscribe to creationism have reasons for their positions; and some of those reasons are good reasons, derived from perfectly legitimate and properly formulated (deductive) philosophical arguments.

2) The argument put forward by “tammidee10” is not sound. All creationists are NOT Christians; there are creationists from other religions as well; therefore, the ones pushing creation are not always Christians, nor are they always Christians posing as scientists.

3) And this, then, takes us to the main question that you posed: “How can we explain that only 0.1% of life scientists believe in creationism?”

The correct answer, I believe, is simply that in the mainstream university world (Harvard, Princeton, UCLA, Cambridge, Oxford, MIT, Yale, Toronto, etc.), in general, is a very atheistic playground full of very career-hungry people; so religious people have a hard time surviving there as professors. They just don’t like the harsh and openly atheistic environment. This is why they instead go to smaller, religious colleges or even change their careers to do something else.

Even in the Religion and Philosophy departments of many, many Western universities one will not find very many professors who truly believe in a traditional, personal God. And in the life sciences departments, just as in the physics departments, the current paradigm is just plain atheism (or Buddhism or agnosticism).

Very few people will be able to survive professionally as professors in such departments if they openly proclaim themselves to be creationists. They will just be frozen out and laughed at; for in these corridors practically everyone thinks [falsely] that science has proven, once and for all, that (some form of) Darwinism is right and that creationism is wrong.

And as if that wasn’t enough, the availability in terms of real research money to embark on lab experiments or other research projects to prove creationism is low; so why would creationists stay? Noteworthy, of course, is that there is no lack of real money (millions of dollars) for research that is Darwinism-friendly. So no wonder that there are so many research projects that investigate THAT. But that’s just “sociology of science”: the government and the big research institutions decide which projects they should give research money to and which they shouldn’t.

Of course, there are always exceptions. One such exception is the small operation at University of Virginia, where the famous reincarnation expert Ian Stevenson, M.D. has a center where they study things such as near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, apparitions, etc., all seemingly working under the university administration.

Answer 2

Only 0.1% believe because they don't have faith. And the Scientists can't have enought faith to take that in they just can't believe that God, created it. Instead they have to go and say that we were a mistake, a fluke, some slimey goo that fell from the sky.

It's actually kind of sad. To think that you are here for no reason what so ever, and that you are a mistake.

Also, it shouldn't matter about a college deggree in life science. Because those scientist are being taught to see it as we evolved from a stinky hairy ape.

And as for the Satan comment. Satan doesn;t need to lead nonbelievers any where. As long as they are going down the wrong path already. Satan doesn't even care.

Answer 3

"Explain to me how most of you (people without a college degree in life science) know a lot more than the 99.9% of scientists that have Ph.D's and M.D.'s in those fields and would win the Nobel Prize if they disproved evolution."

Easy.....they have "faith".....

Answer 4

I'd need to see your source for those stats, first. Many studies on scientists religious leanings are flawed enough to have a margin of error around 50%.

I'm not a creationist, however.

Answer 5

I'm on your side on this one, but I've come to wonder who is the bigger fool: the creationists who sit within their bubble of faith, rejecting science until they need it to save a life, or those of us who argue with them, assuming that we can find just the right logical formula to jar them from their fear-based thought processes.

My goal now is only to have them hold their beliefs somewhere other than on the school board. Let them teach religion somewhere else, but not ever in a science class room. I pity the poor biology teachers who must weather the confrontations of the fundamentalist students who parrot challenges to evolutionary theory such that the entire class's study is disrupted.

Answer 6

Some here claim it's most scientists, others talk about 5%, and now you with 0.1%. This is my answer: A scientist CANNOT believe in creationsm unless he's gone crazy.

Answer 7

The ones pushing creationism are not real scientists, but Christians posing as scientists.

Answer 8

Because these poor deluded intellectual no-nothings (like you, and who says the aforemention "Christians" were in fact Christians?) can explain everything under the sun except one thing, and they break their legs running away from it: where did the Big Bang come from? C'mon, brainiac, where did it "bang" from?
PhD's and M.D.'s are nothing more than degrees. But rectal thermometers have degrees, and you know where they put them!

Answer 9

What skin color was Homo Erectus?

What skin color was Cro-Magnon.

Did they have blue eyes or brown eyes?

Why does nature segregate? Blacks in Africa, Browns in the Middle and NEar East, Yellows in the Far East, Whites up north, Reds in America, Browns in South America.

None of these races can produce other races and ONLY white can produce different hair color and eye colors.

Why is that?

Why can't blacks make blue eyes and blond hair?

Why can't Chinese?

Why can't Mayans

Why can't Navaho?

If I put a bunch of electronics parts into a box and shake them up, with I eventually create a TV set randomly?

If not, why not?

That's how man got created, according to 99.99% of those scientists.

Answer 10

Read your Bible and you will see that throughout history truth has always been a minority, that doesn't bother us. They didn't like Jesus when He was here and they killed Him so why would they accept His followers and their ideas. We only have one comeback - wait and you will see.