Trinity (or 3-in-one Deities) is a pagan belief transferred to Christendom’s Doctrine. Trinity has a bizarre origin, (see this on-line book http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/)
Scriptures have been tampered with, (KJ 1Jo 5:7), and God’s personal name has been removed from the bible text to help sell this false belief. Trinity is not taught in the Bible anywhere. Jesus Christ did not teach it to his followers. It is a difficult, if not impossible concept for anyone to rectify and harmonize with true, important Bible concepts such as the Ransom and the messiah-ship.
Jesus Clearly and repeatedly showed himself to be separate and subordinate to his heavenly father who is named in the Bible several thousands of times, (Jehovah). His apostles consistently manifested a belief in a supreme being who was not the same individual as Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is the name of the individual who was transferred by supernatural power to the womb of a virgin to become a perfect HUMAN. He was the very first thing created by the creator. Before becoming human, his very being was exactly the same as his creator’s. His very personality, his goals, his desires, his love, is exactly the same as his father. Everything else created was created by the father but through and with the son. He became God’s spokesman or mouthpiece and that is why he carries the name and title “Word”. He commands all of the armies of angels. He is the authentic “seed” who will champion all of the Creator’s purposes and return the universe to the situation originally purposed by Jehovah God the creator, as the King of God’s Kingdom, (A government with a heavenly seat). He is the Messiah, and the Ransomer who redeemed the lives of all humanity by paying the ransom price lost by the original human pair. He gave his perfect human life to pay that price. He did not pay that ransom price with a Creator’s life or a God’s life. His father, (a separate all powerful individual who was still alive) Resurrected him from death, (Hell) to a life once again as a spirit creature like he was before and sat him on a throne at his right hand to wait until his Kingdom rule was to begin.
Holy Spirit is not an individual personality; it is God’s active force or power.
Christendom will be held responsible for the perpetuation of the filthy trinity doctrine
2006-10-30 12:31:20
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answered by fasteddie 3
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I could offer you scriptural quotes but that would just lead to questioning the Bible and reaffirming what everyone else will tell you. I prefer looking at what is SELF-EVIDENT truths that even secular people cannot dismiss. For example:
Jesus Christ only lived 33 years, never went more than 30 miles from his home, never wrote a book, never was on tv, never made a cd or any multimedia source and YET
-- Jesus Christ has influenced the world more than any person;
-- Jesus Christ's existence separates history (ac or bc);
-- Jesus Christ has more books written about him than any person in history;
-- Jesus Christ is the Ruler of the largest religion in the world;
-- Jesus Christ had 11 apostles and numerous martyrs die excruciating deaths believing in the Messiah, the Son of God;
-- Jesus Christ as the promised messiah fulfilled over 300 prophesies in the Old Testament. Just fulfilling 50 makes the odds of doing so 10X135 power, an astronomical number. No human being or religious leader's existence was fortold with such clarity, never fulfilled so many prophesies about them, not even Moses, Muhammad (pbuh), Buddha, Confuscious or anyone!
In short, Jesus Christ has accomplished things NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS DONE in the entire history of mankind. If anyone thinks Jesus Christ is JUST A GOOD TEACHER they are very unrealistic by making such a huge understatement.
2006-10-30 10:55:43
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answered by Search4truth 4
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There are too many Scriptures to name in this forum, that declare that Jesus is indeed God. I'll just give a few of the best. The Gospel of John, Chapter 1. I'll elaborate on just the first 5 verses. Verse 1 is very clear: "In the begining was the Word, and the Word was with God, and Word was God." One of the names for Jesus is "Living Word." In the section saying that the "Word was with God:" the Greek for "with" in that passage actually means "the same essence of."
Verses 2-5 go on to say: "He was in the beginning with God." Notice that the Word is now identified as "He." "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." This passage identifies Jesus as the Creative part of the Godhead. The Father devises the plan, and the Son carries it out. This is very evident in the Lord's sacrificial death and triumphant resurrection. The Holy Spirit glorifies the Son, draws people to Jesus, and guides believers.
"In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." Notice the present tense, "the lght shines..." this indicates eternity. The light shone then, and it continues to shine. The the verse goes back to the past tense: "and the darkness did not comprehend it." This is self-explanatory. Jesus was not accepted as the Messiah by most of those He came to--they did not comprehend Him.
I hope this helps some. There is much more one could delve into. For instance, Isaiah 42:8: "I am the LORD, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another. nor my praise to carved images." This is Father God speaking--indicated in the Old Testament by the capitilization of all letters in the word LORD.
Yet, in Matthew 28:18 we read, (after Jesus' resurrection), "Jesus came and spoke to them saying, 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth." And then in the book of Revelation, Jesus said, "I am the Alpha and the Omeaga, the beginning and the End," says the Lord. who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Finally--because I need to stop :-) --Read Revelation 19 verses 11 and following. I hope this helps! May God bless your search for Him!
2006-10-30 11:45:45
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answered by blillie1 2
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The simple answer is when Jesus speaking to the Jews during his trial in in with the Jewish Council. Read Matt. 26:63-68. Jesus refers to Himself as "the Son of Man" which is an allusion to Old Testament prophecy in Daniel 7:13-14, in which Daniel describes his vision of the Messiah, and then goes on to say that the Messiah, has dominion over all, i.e. is the Lord.
Then see the reactions of the Jewish leaders when Jesus said that. Matt. 26:65 says that the high priest said "He has blasphemed." The Jewish leaders clearly understood Christ's statement to be a claim of divinity, a claim to be God. That is why they called for His death, because He claimed to be God, and in their minds, blasphemed, for which the punishment is death.
There are many other times Jesus, either explicitly claims to be God or implicitly claims to be God, to the Jewish audience in the first century, it would have been quite clear what Jesus was claiming. Example, John 5:1-24.
2006-10-30 11:14:46
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answered by JF 1
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Who do you say that I AM?
Of course, the first question that comes to mind after hearing this, is does it make any difference? One might argue that we all worship the same God but with different names be it Allah, Jehovah, Buddha and many other names for gods. We will see here that it DOES make a difference.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on
the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Lets take a few moments to see who this man..JESUS really is..or is NOT!
to read the rest...check the link below
2006-11-01 17:45:02
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answered by Anonymous
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The belief in the trinity predates Christianity by thousands of years. The belief in triune gods originated in ancient Babylon. From there it spread to other lands and cultures. The ancient Egyptians also worshiped triune gods. But the trinity did not become "Christian" until after the Council of Constantinople in 381CE. That was more than 300 years after the Bible was completed.
Trinitarians will have you believe that the trinity is supported by Scripture. They will point to isolated verses that they feel will back them up. For example, they will point to Matt. 28:19, where the Father, the Son and the holy spirit are mentioned in the same verse. Can you see anything in that verse that even suggests that God is made up of 3 co-equal, co-eternal persons? I don't see it.
How about John 1:1? In some Bibles, but not all, it says in part that "the Word (Jesus Christ) was God." Again, I ask if you see anything in that scripture that even remotely says three divine persons make up one God? No. And besides, doesn't John 1:18 say that "No man has seen God at any time"? So Jesus could not have been God because people have seen Jesus.
What about John 10:30 as a trinitarian "proof"? Does this prove Jesus is part of a trinity? How could it since this verse is talking about only 2 people--Jesus and his Father.
Jesus' enemies were upset with him because he told them he could give everlasting life to his followers. See John 10:28. Did that make him God? Of course not. At Matt. 28:18, he said that "all authority has been given me in heaven and on earth." Before that authority was GIVEN to Jesus, did he have it? No! Someone higher than Jesus gave it to him. Who? His Father and superior, Jehovah.
The trinity is a lie. No true Christian believes in it.
2006-10-30 10:46:05
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answered by LineDancer 7
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Jesus did claim to be one with God. He also admitted to being the messiah. He said that no one could come to him unless the Father draws him. He did claim to be before Abraham. He did accept worship. He gave his followers commandments. He was the physical representative of his Father. He did create man ( check out the beautiful verses describing him as Wisdom at Proverbs 8; 22 - 31
22"The LORD possessed me (AF)at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old.
23"From everlasting I was (AG)established,
From the beginning, (AH)from the earliest times of the earth.
24"When there were no (AI)depths I was brought forth,
When there were no springs abounding with water.
25"(AJ)Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth;
26While He had not yet made the earth and the fields,
Nor the first dust of the world.
27"When He (AK)established the heavens, I was there,
When (AL)He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,
28When He made firm the skies above,
When the springs of the deep became fixed,
29When (AM)He set for the sea its boundary
So that the water would not transgress His command,
When He marked out (AN)the foundations of the earth;
30Then (AO)I was beside Him, as a master workman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,
31Rejoicing in the world, His earth,
And having (AP)my delight in the sons of men.
However, at no time did he claim to be God. He always described himself as the son of God or the son of man. He always gave credit to his Father. He called his diciples friends and brothers ( Hebrews 2; 11,12 John 15; 13 )
He taught his followers the Lord's prayer also called the Our Fathers' Prayer , remember he said "Our Father in the heavens, Let your name be sanctified, Let your kingdom come, Let your will take place. " Matthew 6; 9 and 10 22
2006-10-30 11:21:10
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answered by jaguarboy 4
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Isaiah 9:6 - "A Child Will Be Born And His Name Is Called": "Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace", confer with John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
In John 14:8-10, Jesus says that "He who sees me has seen the Father."
John 10:30 - "I and my Father are one."
God bless!
2006-10-30 11:01:08
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answered by Nowhere Man 6
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John 1:1 and John 1:14 1Timothy 3:16 and Christ Himself even admitted that the Father and I are One.
2006-10-30 10:54:12
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answered by judy_derr38565 6
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Hebrews 18: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9: Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10: And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
God the Father calls the Son God.
The words of Jesus in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."
Notice he calls himself the Almighty.
Many passages in the bible make reference to the Son as the Creator of all things. Only God is the Creator.
If you want all the passages that points to him as the Creator, ask and I'd be glad to post them. From both the Old and New Testament.
2006-10-30 10:55:24
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answered by parepidemos_00 3
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