For those who believe this .. In what way, specifically, do you believe that the Holy Bible has been altered?

Question

changed, etc. Where did you learn that information and how do you know that it is true? There must be specific areas with specific proof for you to feel this strongly about it. Or is it heresay and simply because it has been said this way for several generations?

For those who to asked me the reverse question, I am not challenging your belief, I simply wish to understand why you think this.

IF I was searching for what I was truth (I am not, as I know truth in my own heart with Christ) you would have totaly turned me away by your shear rudeness! Those who are religious, what then is your goal? To bring people to what you know as truth or just to be arguementive and rude?

Answer 1

Ok, I first heard this on a documentary I watched on the National Geographic channel. I BELIEVE it was one on Mary Magdalene, but I'm not 100% positive on that. It may have also had to do with the DaVinci Code as I saw it around the time that movie was out. But I do know there was a documentary I first heard of this in. Up until then, I hadn't a clue that anything was omitted or deleted.

Since I couldn't remember the proper title of the documentary, I did some digging.

First up, Wikipedia. I'm not overly fond of plugging Wikis as they're too easily altered, but, this particular article does put a nice, neat table together of the various versions of the Bible(Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, etc) and which have which books and which have books missing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible

As you can see, there are stark differences in the books included in especially Jewish, Protestant, and Catholic bibles. If the Bible hadn't been altered, well, we'd all have the same bible to look at. So depending on your denomination/faith, books have indeed been left out that are in other Bibles.

Also, at the bottom of that article, after the table, there are some footnotes, one of which states that the Book of Esther in the Protestant bible is missing one hundred and THREE verses! If it wasn't altered or edited, again, why would that be? So obviously, there was some editing and books deleted.

As to just who had the bright idea of omitting books and passages, check this out;

http://reluctant-messenger.com/council-of-laodicea.htm

Council of Laodicea, fourth century AD. These are the fellows who met and decided what books were "good enough" to be included in the Bible and be read at church services, among other things, like switching the Sabbath to Sunday from Saturday. They were the ones who decided they didn't agree with some teachings, considering them heretical or contrary to the Canons they were laying down as church law.

Obviously, if you've got a book where it tells about resting on Saturday as the Sabbath while you're trying to decree Sunday as the day to worship God, can't have that, now, can we?

I suspect sexism comes into play a bit as I suspect the missing Book of Mary may have been the Gospel of Mary Magdalene the documentary I saw was talking about. A woman preacher, oh, heaven forbid that a woman be equal to a man back in those days, let alone preach in church. If not sexism playing there, then I wonder just what might be written there that the church didn't want us to know about?

Same for Gospels of Adam and Eve. Considering the role Creation plays in Christianity, one would think that those two books would be crucial to the Bible. But yet, they too, are omitted. Could it be that there's secrets of Creation there contrary to the events and timeline portrayed by the church that they don't want us to know about?

Yeah. It's been altered. Heavily, for that matter. If not by those in power trying to promote their views and hide things they don't agree with, then there's always that little thing called translation. You think that in 2000 years, there haven't been mistranslations? The bible wasn't originally in English. If not Aramaic, then some other long-lost language, translated to Latin and Greek and on down through various European languages down to modern day English.

Believe me, I've studied language enough to know that even today, as much as we try to translate perfectly, mistakes happen, even among pros. Imagine how it must have been in the early days of the church, when people weren't professionals at language and likely not as concerned about a "perfect" translation, especially if they didn't agree with something.

Answer 2

The Christian Essenes found the lost teachings of Christ in the Basement of the Vatican to confirm their teachings they had hidden since the teachings of Christ. They had to hide out because they where being persecuted and killed by non Christians. At thw time of Christ (they are the original Christians) I can give you heaps of mistranslated words but there is not enough room here In the Book You Mean that's in the Bible? Has the mistranslated texts from Greek to English and even before that. King Constantine stricken everything to do with Reincarnation to control his citizens. And also vegetarianism because he was a meat eater. Paul from the get go was a pretender and never met Christ yet 70% of the Bible are his words. He was killing Christians and then pretended to be a real Christian. There is so much you just have to be sincere and put two and two together. Go to www.essene.org to get the full picture on Christ and go to www.krishnaculture to get the above book.

Answer 3

One big one... God's name... it was in the Old Test almost 7,000 times (ask a Jew, they'll tell you it was in there). Certain Jews replaced it with LORD GOD (that's why those 2 words are always in all capital letters - to show there was something else there... not for importance like most ppl think). The YHVH used to be in the Old Test, till jews replaced it... to keep people from blasphemying the name of god. Bad part of that is, "thou shalt not take the LORD GOD's name in vain" makes the name vain/empty/without substance, because the name isn't even there!

Specific proof... well, I started that study when I was a Yahwist. I was in my early twenties (I'm 36 now) and did research into Hebrew, even going to the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati, Ohio in order to get more information on it... not as a student there, but a visitor...

I'm Pagan - mainly because even those names given in the Bible were Pagan Deity names long before the Bible was even written.... But that's a different study all together *wink*

Answer 4

How do you know that the Bible was not altered and that it is from God at all? There must be specific areas with specific proof for you to feel this strongly about it. Or is it simply because it has been said this way for several generations?

This way around it makes more sense.

Answer 5

Translations are the biggest alteration.

For example in one culture a word may mean one thing but in another culture it means something else, words are left out because they are no longer used, or someone forgot to use/no use a word.

I have heard there a "missing books" of the bible. If you think about it there is nothing really written about Jesus' childhood between the period of being born and when Mary and Joseph left him in the temple and then from that point until he was "coming of age"

Answer 6

The holy bible has not changed, the translation and interpretations have changed. The holy bible is a love letter to the believer. Such as the same how a lost child gets to know his/her parent. Only those who wish to know God intimately will find the true message of the bible. Every jot and space was written by man, but is inspired by God. You don't get to know the intimacies of a relationship unless you spend time in the relationship. The same applies here in getting to know God.

Answer 7

The Bible has been radically altered by the JW's in order that there be nothing to contradict their teachings.

For me, I have always wondered why Judas hanged himself in one gospel and disembowled himself in another. Each form of suicide is so horrible that I doubt that he could do both things at the same time.

Through archaeological digs, like the scrolls at Qumram, it has been found that the scriptures of today are very similar to the same scriptures that are more than 2,000 years old.

Most translations have been done in a serious manner. Rather than alteration, differences seem to exist due to interpretation.

Answer 8

The Bible says:

1) people are filthy and deserving of Hell.

2) God is an angry God.

3) God will avenge Himself if you don't accept Jesus, yet he teaches you not to be avengeful.

4) Non-believers are not worth spending time with.


The previous bible claims are irrational and unethical, and make no sense. They put you down as a person more than they bring you up. Since these previous claims go against my values for self and world improvement, I decided not to believe in the Bible.

Answer 9

It's been translated hundreds of ways, revised, and retold. How do you know for certain it HASN'T been changed!? The same way I think that it has.

It's logic. It's a HUGE telephone game. You start out with one person saying something happened one way, then after it's been passed from person to person, it ends up completely changed and altered from the original story!!! Not to mention, I've never met any of the "people" who wrote the stories in the Bible, so how am I supposed to know they aren't just extremely creative writers? Or that they don't exagerate their stories!?

While it's your belief to have faith in an ancient book, my common sense tells me otherwise.

Answer 10

Well, just thru translation, altering happens. You can't exactly represent what was said. That is why most serious students of the bible, learn the languages used to write the books, or at least have a lexicon, concordance and dictionaries to see the exact function of each word and how they affect a sentence..