He said that the jewish people never went anywhere without food -- especially given that they knew they were going to be listening to a preacher. When it came time to rest and eat, people didn't want to take their food out because they were afraid they'd have to share. Then when they saw a kid willing to share his small amount of food with everyone, a real miracle happened: they realized their own selfishness and felt unity and brought out their food to share with everyone.
2006-10-30 01:28:26 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
wow that is a wonderful explanation and yes a miracle lol
that would have made for a much better example of the love and compassion that Jesus taught
2006-10-30 01:35:51 · answer #1 · answered by Peace 7 · 2⤊ 4⤋
I wouldn't call that a miracle. That would be called "conviction", ie the crowd would feel "convicted" (guilty) about their own selfishness, which could motivate them into a more appropriate action.
However, the "minister's" interpretation is incorrect: he is denying the miraculous multiplication of the bread and fish as it is recorded in Scripture. This is called "HERESY". If the church fathers (apostles) had witnessed spontaneous sharing among a crowd of people (which could have easily numbered 10,000 --only the men were counted, women and children were present), they would have been sure to mention it. Instead, they recorded a miraculous supply of food, generated by Jesus, using the small amount of food provided by 1 child. This is also not the first such miracle recorded in Scripture. Jesus did this at least twice, and there is at least one instance of it recorded in the Old Testament.
When a "very spiritual minister" chooses to deny the miraculous creative power of Jesus Christ, as recorded by the apostles, I must say I doubt his spirituality. I don't care how pious the individual may seem, such deception is still wrong.
2006-10-30 09:41:27 · answer #2 · answered by MamaBear 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Hi tere, was this Minister a competent Theologian? certainly dosen`t sound like it to me, time and time again you hear these convenient and modernistic interpertations, and you have to wonder is it pride, smugness,self delusion?
you cannot call what this Minister`s version of the event a miracle, a miracle is that which does not operate by the ordinary law of nature as this implies, but outside the law of nature,i.e would you call it a miracle if I shamed you into buying a round of drinks if you were not willing? of course not.
In actual fact the crowds who followed Jesus where the ordinary folk who were poor, mostly uneducated and struggling to live under the impossible yolk of Pharisee law, when these people heard the words of Jesus they were so eager to hear more, they literally dropped everything without thought to rush after Him.
Again ,scripture say`s that the Apostles dropped their nets to follow him,are we to seriously believe that they went home first to make up a packed lunch?
The miracle of the above passage is akin to the miracle of Cana, it is Eucharistic in nature or it is nothing at all, the good wine of the wedding feast kept till last, is Jesus Himself, likewise the multiplication of the loaves and fishes is meant to represent Jesus as well,
What possible reference could the loaves and fishes have if not to the sharing of Christs body.
the Apostles were later to grasp and see this ,yet a Minister 2,000 yrs later is unable to, what is going on here? you have to ask yourself.
2006-10-30 10:18:59 · answer #3 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I would say that this minister is adding his own opinion to the Holy Bible. We can not shape the doctrines of Scripture or change any words to match our opinions. If this happens, beware we would be putting ourselves above God. We must shape our opinions into the beliefs that match God's Word. There are many miracles in the Bible and all times they sound awesome. Well just think for a minute ....feeding all those people or healing a blind person so they can see or a man to walk. All miracles are awesome and when we start to change or tear down any of them, then we are questioning the power of God. A power we can never fully understand, but also we can never question. Faith is knowing that God's Words are true, not trying to change them so they sound truer. True...while this minister is caught in a lie.
2006-10-30 09:45:28 · answer #4 · answered by rebecca 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I like your version. I do think there is a logical reason for every so called ''miracle''. Did you know that every one of the plagues of the Exodus can be explained by the natural reaction to the volcano and earthquake eruption of Santorrini? The miracle was that the Israelites were there at the right time.
All things can be explained, or, they were made up, and cannot be explained.
2006-10-30 09:48:59 · answer #5 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Why would he feel the need to rationalize away one of Jesus's easy miracles? Does he also not believe that he really walked on water, raised Lazarus, and resurrected himself?
Making excuses for the bible is the first step toward realizing that the entire thing is completely absurd fiction. Which is a very brave thing for a "very spiritual minister" to do. I commend him.
2006-10-30 09:33:40 · answer #6 · answered by Steven S 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I'm sorry, but this minister does not sound "very spiritual" to me. It seems like he is denying that Jesus performed this miracle. Does this "very spiritual" minister believe that Jesus performed any miracle? Does this "very spiritual" minister believe that Jesus is divine?
I would leave the church of this "very spiritual" minister and find a church that teaches the truth about jesus Christ. Try a Catholic Church. The Catholic Church believes that jesus is God and that He performed miracles.
2006-10-30 09:50:44 · answer #7 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
that is stupid.... this very spiritual minister knows nothing about the bible or the jews....
first the bible says the people did not have food...any food they had initially brought would have been eaten up.... they did not bring their refrigerators with them to keep food fresh....remember , food in those days did not have preservatives either
second..if you have ever been around jewish people, they will always offer you food. Eating together is a social event for them.
2006-10-30 09:37:33 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
I don't think they took food with them cause of no account was given that they did. But if you read the disciples did take their lunch. Thats where the 12 baskets came from. I would have to study that more myself, but read all the gospels for it.
2006-10-30 09:48:22 · answer #9 · answered by iwant_u2_wantme2000 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Was he there ? so his reasoning is above what the bible says ,? he is talking a lot of supposition. he is talking a lot of his own maybe ideas. and is probably very wrong.
2006-10-30 09:57:01 · answer #10 · answered by djfjedi1976 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋